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Old 05-07-2009, 03:38 PM
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fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

marty marty marty marty marty marty marty!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm sorry... I'm going to give Mine That Bird the benefit of the doubt as to being a good horse, and let him prove me right or wrong.

But please dont compare him to secretariat... try not to even let that thought pop up in your head... it will only make things worse!!
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:41 PM
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marty marty marty marty marty marty marty!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm sorry... I'm going to give Mine That Bird the benefit of the doubt as to being a good horse, and let him prove me right or wrong.

But please dont compare him to secretariat... try not to even let that thought pop up in your head... it will only make things worse!!
lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:45 PM
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I'm actually half willing to buy the oxygen deprevation training angle on Mine that Bird, incidentally.

I'm sorry I opened this can of worms by comparing final half times of this year's Derby with those of Ghostzapper and others. I should be banned.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:47 PM
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I'm actually half willing to buy the oxygen deprevation training angle on Mine that Bird, incidentally.

I'm sorry I opened this can of worms by comparing final half times of this year's Derby with those of Ghostzapper and others. I should be banned.

Dont worry about it Slotdirt, I'm pretty sure the person living underneath Gales apartment is running a meth lab in there and the fumes are traveling up.
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lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train

honey I agree with you that the horse was flying.

But how can you compare a horse who was 4th in the Sunland Park derby to maybe the greatest thoroughbred of all time.

And just because the last 1/2 mile was in secretariat like speed... you have to incorporate the FINAL time for the whole race... which was like 3 full seconds slower than Secretariat.. or 18 lenghts slower.

thats right buddy, if they would have ran identical races this past saturday and were both in the field, Secretariat would have won the race by 18 lengths. Thats almost like how Rachel Alexandra won her race.

Does that help at all?



and please do not respond with... "he was flying the last 1/2 mile, no?"
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:49 PM
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aren't races in the mud going to be slower than on a fast track?
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:51 PM
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aren't races in the mud going to be slower than on a fast track?

i have no idea, but the track super said the track was wet/fast.

Also I gauruntee or however you spell it, that Secretariat would not have run 3 seconds slower if the track had been wet.

Probably would have run the same time.
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i have no idea, but the track super said the track was wet/fast.

Also I gauruntee or however you spell it, that Secretariat would not have run 3 seconds slower if the track had been wet.

Probably would have run the same time.

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again
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ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again
What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?
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ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again
What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:03 PM
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lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train
Street Sense ran his last 6 furlongs in 1:12.79 as opposed to Mine That Bird going 1:12.95 but nice try. And if you really find the need to bring Secretariat into the discussion, well he ran his last 6 furlongs in 1:10.56.
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