NFL Draft

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Holy crap.

He is a big strong fast kid.
I dont know about the best, but he is damn good.
The Giants were looking for his type.

Crabtree and Maclin were obviously not available.
Even if they were, I think the Giants would wish both
were more physical receivers like Nicks. (ala Pexiglass)

Imo Crabtree is lots better than Maclin. Nicks is very good.
He did not get to strut his stuff in college quite like the first two.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

He is a big strong fast kid.
I dont know about the best, but he is damn good.
The Giants were looking for his type.

Crabtree and Maclin were obviously not available.
Even if they were, I think the Giants would wish both
were more physical receivers like Nicks. (ala Pexiglass)

Imo Crabtree is lots better than Maclin. Nicks is very good.
He did not get to strut his stuff in college quite like the first two.

Stop saying he's fast. He's not. He has completely average speed, and that was before he gained 14 pounds after the combine. He's a decent possession receiver. That's it. I'd be shocked if he ever caught 1,000 yards. I don't care how many footballs he pulls out of his taint in bowl games.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Stop saying he's fast. He's not. He has completely average speed, and that was before he gained 14 pounds after the combine. He's a decent possession receiver. That's it. I'd be shocked if he ever caught 1,000 yards. I don't care how many footballs he pulls out of his taint in bowl games.

Yes and the frkkn Alabama lineman that did not even go to combines
and weighs as much as two trucks got drafted in the top 5. What did
he show at the combines? Its the upside. Nicks has better than average
speed for his size, and his speed will improve when he loses weight.

He can go up and catch balls in traffic. The trend is towards larger
receivers as CB's get smaller and faster. If they try putting a safety on
him he is strong enough to get off the line. I see nothing wrong with the pick
at all. They wanted a Burress type. The got the body type that can
develop into one. Who were you looking for?

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes and the frkkn Alabama lineman that did not even go to combines
and weighs as much as two trucks got drafted in the top 5. What did
he show at the combines? Its the upside. Nicks has better than average
speed for his size, and his speed will improve when he loses weight.

He can go up and catch balls in traffic. The trend is towards larger
receivers as CB's get smaller and faster. If they try putting a safety on
him he is strong enough to get off the line. I see nothing wrong with the pick
at all. They wanted a Burress type. The got the body type that can
develop into one. Who were you looking for?

Hilarious. Hakeem Nicks, 6'1" 212 lbs. Plaxico Burress, 6'5" 232 lbs. Yeah, same player. I wasn't looking for anyone, I'm not a Giant fan, but Nicks is the best player in this draft? He's the definition of a possession receiver. That's not what Burress was. Burress was a dominant player.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Hilarious. Hakeem Nicks, 6'1" 212 lbs. Plaxico Burress, 6'5" 232 lbs. Yeah, same player. I wasn't looking for anyone, I'm not a Giant fan, but Nicks is the best player in this draft? He's the definition of a possession receiver. That's not what Burress was. Burress was a dominant player.

What the hell are you reading?
Where on God's green earth did I type the bolded?

Did you ever watch the kid play, ever? He played with a
poor QB on a team that relied on D and running. Nicks was the
one guy on the team that made a difference. There are a lot of
tall guys that are not strong enough to go get the ball in the air.
Nicks is very strong, I dont care what he is listed at. I watched
him go up between people on very poorly thrown balls and jump
while off balance and catch the ball while getting punished.

Who did you want? And I am not a Giants fan either, the kid can
play. How can you say he its a bad pick unless you got someone better.
If he develops, he will be a very good receiver. Its not fair
to compare him to guys like Crabtree and Macklin. They constantly
had plays run for them. They were on teams that put the ball in the
air every play. Nicks forced NC to throw the ball his way
because they could not do much else, especially later in the season.

I did not say he is Plexiglass, they want someone more like him.
Who else were you going in this draft to fit that bill? Giants had
a good year off. They got Canty, their D is set. They did a good job
in the offseason imo. They should win the East, they improved their
team considering that Plexiglass was done with them.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

What the hell are you reading?
Where on God's green earth did I type the bolded?

Did you ever watch the kid play, ever? He played with a
poor QB on a team that relied on D and running. Nicks was the
one guy on the team that made a difference. There are a lot of
tall guys that are not strong enough to go get the ball in the air.
Nicks is very strong, I dont care what he is listed at. I watched
him go up between people on very poorly thrown balls and jump
while off balance and catch the ball while getting punished.

Who did you want? And I am not a Giants fan either, the kid can
play. How can you say he its a bad pick unless you got someone better.
If he develops, he will be a very good receiver. Its not fair
to compare him to guys like Crabtree and Macklin. They constantly
had plays run for them. They were on teams that put the ball in the
air every play. Nicks forced NC to throw the ball his way
because they could not do much else, especially later in the season.

I did not say he is Plexiglass, they want someone more like him.
Who else were you going in this draft to fit that bill? Giants had
a good year off. They got Canty, their D is set. They did a good job
in the offseason imo. They should win the East, they improved their
team considering that Plexiglass was done with them.

Steven H. Crist. King Glorious said Nicks was the best player in the draft, which was why I responded. And of course you butted in with a bunch of long-winded nonsense. Yes, I've seen him play. He's a decent receiver. I really don't care what kind of offense he played in, he's not great at anything and he wouldn't have been so highly regarded if it weren't for a huge Gator Bowl. You compared him to Burress, which is absurd.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Steven H. Crist. King Glorious said Nicks was the best player in the draft, which was why I responded. And of course you butted in with a bunch of long-winded nonsense. Yes, I've seen him play. He's a decent receiver. I really don't care what kind of offense he played in, he's not great at anything and he wouldn't have been so highly regarded if it weren't for a huge Gator Bowl. You compared him to Burress, which is absurd.

BS.
He was already considered a top reciever. And comparing
and equating are two very diff. things. A comparison does
not mean equality. Stop with the
weaseling. The Giants made a good pick with the receivers
that were left. If you have another, present please.

Please give me the rules about following up assessments
(butting in a thread that was off limits) in the moderator's handbook
and I will attempt to follow the mandates.