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Old 04-26-2009, 08:50 PM
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I think the best player in this draft was Hakeem Nicks, the receiver from UNC that went to the Giants at #29. I love that guy.
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I think the best player in this draft was Hakeem Nicks, the receiver from UNC that went to the Giants at #29. I love that guy.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:41 PM
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Nicks was the guy who tweaked his hammy in the offseason and packed on some pounds, right? Seems like the logical guy to take Burress' spot, same strengths.

Two stellar drafts from the teams atop the NFC East. Looks like they will be there for years to come.

There wasnt a move made this whole offseason by the Birds that I didnt absolutely LOVE. They continue to put themselves in great shape for next years draft. What looks to be a 2nd round pick for Lito from the Jets, and Seattle's 3rd round pick next year. (An awesome move by them this year by trading out of 3rd round, as they still got the TE they coveted in Ingram from FLA in the 5th). I'm eager to see how defenses are going to match up with some of these formations.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:12 PM
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Nicks was the guy who tweaked his hammy in the offseason and packed on some pounds, right? Seems like the logical guy to take Burress' spot, same strengths.

Two stellar drafts from the teams atop the NFC East. Looks like they will be there for years to come.

There wasnt a move made this whole offseason by the Birds that I didnt absolutely LOVE. They continue to put themselves in great shape for next years draft. What looks to be a 2nd round pick for Lito from the Jets, and Seattle's 3rd round pick next year. (An awesome move by them this year by trading out of 3rd round, as they still got the TE they coveted in Ingram from FLA in the 5th). I'm eager to see how defenses are going to match up with some of these formations.
I'm a fellow Eagles fan, grew up my first 28 years in PA - what do you think of the way Sheldon Brown is acting? His most recent comment:

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The acquisition of Hobbs pleased Brown, but only because he hoped it could lead to his departure from Philadelphia.

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He was going to be my fav player this year on D with Dawk gone, not anymore
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:21 PM
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I'm a fellow Eagles fan, grew up my first 28 years in PA - what do you think of the way Sheldon Brown is acting? His most recent comment:



He was going to be my fav player this year on D with Dawk gone, not anymore

Sheldon can kiss my ass. The Eagles gave him a great contract that made him set for life.. The Eagles are going to be SICK this year and he wants to be a cry baby. He must not be very smart or he'd realize the only player who can whine on the birds and actually get what he wants is McNabb... all other whiners are just ignored (TO, Lito).

Sheldon is slightly above average as a corner and is replacable. I thought he was going to have a very good career, but wasnt too impressed last year... some WR's can just blow right by him.

I would love the Eagles to trade him to a team like Oakland, Detroit, or Cinci.

While I dont think Hobbs should be a starter on this team, he adds to the depth and we will be just fine at that position with or without Sheldon.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:39 PM
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I'm a fellow Eagles fan, grew up my first 28 years in PA - what do you think of the way Sheldon Brown is acting? His most recent comment:



He was going to be my fav player this year on D with Dawk gone, not anymore
I say, let him prove it this year that he's worth more coin. I think I read somewhere that he was the 33rd highest paid corner in the league. Sounds about right for a 2nd-3rd corner. He would be committing contractual suicide if he were to let this interfere with his play and develop as a locker room cancer. No team would want a player like that, esp. one asking for more bread.

He says he got the idea of complaining from the Eagles website or something to that effect. He says that he never even thought about it until it was brought to his attention. The fact is that he has 4, yes 4, more years on his current deal and already wants it re-worked. Good luck to him trying to pry more money from this franchise.

He's lucky to have been in this scheme for this long. If he were to go to a team that is lackadaisical with the blitz, he'd be getting toasted left and right. He simply isnt a cover corner. He can lay down some huge hits here and there and is a sure tackler, but he thrives on our front 7 getting bigtime pressure and forcing the QB to get rid of the ball quickly. FFS, there was discussion of moving him to safety so that he doesnt have to cover as much and can just roam around and lay people out, ala Dawkins.

I applaud the Eagles for standing ground and denouncing his request. They keep saying that he isn't being shopped, which may or may not be true, but I'm sure they'll be listening to every offer. (See Boldin as an example of a team losing trade value on a player once it's known that he's on the market) If its more money he seeks, he'll come out to play this year and showcase to other teams that he's worth the restructured deal. If not, he pulls a Lito and is an unhappy camper this year until we ship him. I can see packaging him and Reggie Brown up in a move, but this team has NO needs, so Im not sure what they'd ask for in return.

Great move by the FO in grabbing insurance in the way of Ellis Hobbs for two 5th round picks. There was a good chance that the guys we drafted with those picks wouldnt even have made this team, so to get a top notch return man and an adequate starting corner is a steal. Can't have too many good players at camp and am already foaming at the mouth getting ready for the training camp battles. This team is in PHENOMENAL position both on and off the field.
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This team is in PHENOMENAL position both on and off the field.
Spare us the superlatives, declansharbor


Reid-McNabb are now heading into their eleventh season in Philly ... and still ZERO rings to show for it.


Meanwhile, the small-market team (a team which I despise, btw) on the other side of the state is going for number seven, no less.



Being competitive year in and year out ... or this preseason buzz created by a couple decent draft picks ain't good enough anymore.


Reid-McNabb need to take care of business SOON or get the hell outta Dodge.



REAL Birds fans want to see a bunch of drunken fat guys marching down Broad St in the middle of Feb ... and will settle for nothing less.


That's the ONLY "phenomenal" thing that can happen, in my estimation.
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I think the best player in this draft was Hakeem Nicks, the receiver from UNC that went to the Giants at #29. I love that guy.
Holy crap.
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Holy crap.
Yea, that award goes to Aaron Curry. Seachickens got a PLAYER.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:27 PM
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Holy crap.
He is a big strong fast kid.
I dont know about the best, but he is damn good.
The Giants were looking for his type.

Crabtree and Maclin were obviously not available.
Even if they were, I think the Giants would wish both
were more physical receivers like Nicks. (ala Pexiglass)

Imo Crabtree is lots better than Maclin. Nicks is very good.
He did not get to strut his stuff in college quite like the first two.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:22 AM
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He is a big strong fast kid.
I dont know about the best, but he is damn good.
The Giants were looking for his type.

Crabtree and Maclin were obviously not available.
Even if they were, I think the Giants would wish both
were more physical receivers like Nicks. (ala Pexiglass)

Imo Crabtree is lots better than Maclin. Nicks is very good.
He did not get to strut his stuff in college quite like the first two.
Stop saying he's fast. He's not. He has completely average speed, and that was before he gained 14 pounds after the combine. He's a decent possession receiver. That's it. I'd be shocked if he ever caught 1,000 yards. I don't care how many footballs he pulls out of his taint in bowl games.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:41 PM
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Stop saying he's fast. He's not. He has completely average speed, and that was before he gained 14 pounds after the combine. He's a decent possession receiver. That's it. I'd be shocked if he ever caught 1,000 yards. I don't care how many footballs he pulls out of his taint in bowl games.
Yes and the frkkn Alabama lineman that did not even go to combines
and weighs as much as two trucks got drafted in the top 5. What did
he show at the combines? Its the upside. Nicks has better than average
speed for his size
, and his speed will improve when he loses weight.

He can go up and catch balls in traffic. The trend is towards larger
receivers as CB's get smaller and faster. If they try putting a safety on
him he is strong enough to get off the line. I see nothing wrong with the pick
at all. They wanted a Burress type. The got the body type that can
develop into one. Who were you looking for?
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:05 PM
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Yes and the frkkn Alabama lineman that did not even go to combines
and weighs as much as two trucks got drafted in the top 5. What did
he show at the combines? Its the upside. Nicks has better than average
speed for his size
, and his speed will improve when he loses weight.

He can go up and catch balls in traffic. The trend is towards larger
receivers as CB's get smaller and faster. If they try putting a safety on
him he is strong enough to get off the line. I see nothing wrong with the pick
at all. They wanted a Burress type. The got the body type that can
develop into one. Who were you looking for?
Hilarious. Hakeem Nicks, 6'1" 212 lbs. Plaxico Burress, 6'5" 232 lbs. Yeah, same player. I wasn't looking for anyone, I'm not a Giant fan, but Nicks is the best player in this draft? He's the definition of a possession receiver. That's not what Burress was. Burress was a dominant player.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:52 PM
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Hilarious. Hakeem Nicks, 6'1" 212 lbs. Plaxico Burress, 6'5" 232 lbs. Yeah, same player. I wasn't looking for anyone, I'm not a Giant fan, but Nicks is the best player in this draft? He's the definition of a possession receiver. That's not what Burress was. Burress was a dominant player.
What the hell are you reading?
Where on God's green earth did I type the bolded?

Did you ever watch the kid play, ever? He played with a
poor QB on a team that relied on D and running. Nicks was the
one guy on the team that made a difference. There are a lot of
tall guys that are not strong enough to go get the ball in the air.
Nicks is very strong, I dont care what he is listed at. I watched
him go up between people on very poorly thrown balls and jump
while off balance and catch the ball while getting punished.

Who did you want? And I am not a Giants fan either, the kid can
play. How can you say he its a bad pick unless you got someone better.
If he develops, he will be a very good receiver. Its not fair
to compare him to guys like Crabtree and Macklin. They constantly
had plays run for them. They were on teams that put the ball in the
air every play. Nicks forced NC to throw the ball his way
because they could not do much else, especially later in the season.

I did not say he is Plexiglass, they want someone more like him.
Who else were you going in this draft to fit that bill? Giants had
a good year off. They got Canty, their D is set. They did a good job
in the offseason imo. They should win the East, they improved their
team considering that Plexiglass was done with them.
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I think the best player in this draft was Hakeem Nicks, the receiver from UNC that went to the Giants at #29. I love that guy.
I like him even more now. He's a player. Best receiver in this draft, including Crabtree.
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I like him even more now. He's a player. Best receiver in this draft, including Crabtree.

he's no better than Maclin
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he's no better than Maclin
Or a lot better. One of the two.
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Or a lot better. One of the two.
What are you basing this on?
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What are you basing this on?
Nicks has
two less games
one less reception
42 more yards
one more touchdown
is averaging five yards more per catch
is averaging 20 more yards per game

I have no clue what brings me to my opinion.
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