Just for a change of pace

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Ok, philosophical question for you then -- if abortion should be legal, then you'd likely be of the mind that it's not really a person per se when it's aborted....so why would you care if women had three? Or six? Or ten, if she clearly has no emotional issue with doing so?

I dont know when it's a person. I know when they grow for awhile in the womb, on the ultrasound they sure look like a person, heart beats like a person, makes faces like a person, kicks like a person, etc.

I think only 1st term abortions should be legal. This is a tough subject. I personally feel that there is no way I could have an abortion if somehow I got knocked up. Though I'm sure there are religious wacko's out there who would say I am having theoretical abortions by not sleeping with men.

With that said, there are though situations that occur everyday, to women all over the world, where an abortion may be the best answer for them. (raped, way too young, just not ready and have no money & no partner, etc.). I do not feel that I can judge those women for those hard decisions that they have to make. I am all for choice.

BUT.. I cannot respect women who abuse abortion and use it as a means of birthcontrol, because they are two lazy to use condoms, the pill, or keep their damn legs closed. I think it is disgusting and immoral and I think it should be illegal in that regard. Upping the cost for the abortions in this case would most likely lessen the problem (are the sluts gonna get prego's when they know its gonna cost them $32,000 to get an abortion??), and still be there for people who have legit reasons to have an abortion.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know when it's a person. I know when they grow for awhile in the womb, on the ultrasound they sure look like a person, heart beats like a person, makes faces like a person, kicks like a person, etc.

I think only 1st term abortions should be legal. This is a tough subject. I personally feel that there is no way I could have an abortion if somehow I got knocked up. Though I'm sure there are religious wacko's out there who would say I am having theoretical abortions by not sleeping with men.

With that said, there are though situations that occur everyday, to women all over the world, where an abortion may be the best answer for them. (raped, way too young, just not ready and have no money & no partner, etc.). I do not feel that I can judge those women for those hard decisions that they have to make. I am all for choice.

BUT.. I cannot respect women who abuse abortion and use it as a means of birthcontrol, because they are two lazy to use condoms, the pill, or keep their damn legs closed. I think it is disgusting and immoral and I think it should be illegal in that regard. Upping the cost for the abortions in this case would most likely lessen the problem (are the sluts gonna get prego's when they know its gonna cost them $32,000 to get an abortion??), and still be there for people who have legit reasons to have an abortion.

Fair. Completely.

Just like my anti-death penalty stance, my pro-choice stance is absolute as well. It's each woman's choice. I may not agree with all the choices a woman may make, but to me, that's what being pro-choice is...that it doesn't have to be the choice I would make in that situation or even a choice I like, but that it was HER choice.

To me, that's what being pro-choice is all about. It's not always as easy as the slogan would make it sound. While I would never ever have 19 kids or however many that family I think is absolutely CRAZY has, but I respect that it's their choice...even if I think they're crazy for doing it and even though I think it gives their kids worse lives than they could have had without living in a boot camp for a home.