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Old 04-21-2009, 09:46 AM
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The overnights denote who is an entry, so you could take a look at those. I may be mistaken, but I think it takes a bit longer for the "final" version to come out because of the morning line.

This is a great move by NYRA and another item in a list of steps they've taken over the last six to nine months in aiding the player.

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Exactly, so why cant they just go and put it on the PP's when they are posted?
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:57 AM
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Any chance of publishing scratches a wee bit earlier?
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:25 AM
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Any chance of publishing scratches a wee bit earlier?
Lets not get carried away. 90 minutes before the 1st race should be plebty of time to re-handicap the card.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:02 PM
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Lets not get carried away. 90 minutes before the 1st race should be plebty of time to re-handicap the card.
It's actually interesting how little people really seem to pay attention sometimes. I have no problem with this, but when someone complains, yet also hasn't been paying attention to what they are complaining about, it certainly mitigates their argument. I can't speak for other tracks, but the absolute earliest all scatch information is available to be disseminated at NYRA is just past 10:30. Since early December, we have had the scratches available on the scratch line no later than 11am, and many days up to 10 minutes earlier. There were two days in the past week or so when the scratches came on just after 11, but the days of them being consistantly later were put behind us months ago.

Late scratches are part of the game, a necessary evil for handicappers so to speak, and we are doing whatever we can to make them available as soon as possible.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:14 PM
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When the chance of "off turf" exists, I assume that scratches may be late as the racing office is hoping to stay on and trying to figure out if it's possible. This may entail moving the whole card forward (as was done one day 2 weeks ago) if weather is expected late in the day. I've only rarely had trouble getting changes and no issue recently.

Andy, will the same schedule be in place at the Spa? Like everyone else I have have to 'cap well in advance (Thursday I have to complete Saturday's card) and I sure would love to have the PP's a day earlier.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:39 PM
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Andy, will the same schedule be in place at the Spa? Like everyone else I have have to 'cap well in advance (Thursday I have to complete Saturday's card) and I sure would love to have the PP's a day earlier.

I don't know officially but I would be shocked if we didn't stay on a 72 hour draw in Saratoga as well.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:17 PM
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I think the Southern Cal tracks are the only ones which post early scratches the night before race day.

Some of the morning radio shows out there have also given out "stucks" or "stuck horses"

Both can be useful.
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It's actually interesting how little people really seem to pay attention sometimes. I have no problem with this, but when someone complains, yet also hasn't been paying attention to what they are complaining about, it certainly mitigates their argument. I can't speak for other tracks, but the absolute earliest all scatch information is available to be disseminated at NYRA is just past 10:30. Since early December, we have had the scratches available on the scratch line no later than 11am, and many days up to 10 minutes earlier. There were two days in the past week or so when the scratches came on just after 11, but the days of them being consistantly later were put behind us months ago.

Late scratches are part of the game, a necessary evil for handicappers so to speak, and we are doing whatever we can to make them available as soon as possible.
Odd random question... why does it seem there's always more scratches at NYRA than anywhere else? On a good weather day, So Cal there might be 2-3 non-AE's, KY similar, FL similar, NY averages closer to 6-8.
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Odd random question... why does it seem there's always more scratches at NYRA than anywhere else? On a good weather day, So Cal there might be 2-3 non-AE's, KY similar, FL similar, NY averages closer to 6-8.

How would you answer this question if you were me?
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:21 PM
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How would you answer this question if you were me?
"I don't know" if you don't know?

maybe scratch rules are different? maybe chuck knows.
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It's actually interesting how little people really seem to pay attention sometimes. I have no problem with this, but when someone complains, yet also hasn't been paying attention to what they are complaining about, it certainly mitigates their argument. I can't speak for other tracks, but the absolute earliest all scatch information is available to be disseminated at NYRA is just past 10:30. Since early December, we have had the scratches available on the scratch line no later than 11am, and many days up to 10 minutes earlier. There were two days in the past week or so when the scratches came on just after 11, but the days of them being consistantly later were put behind us months ago.

Late scratches are part of the game, a necessary evil for handicappers so to speak, and we are doing whatever we can to make them available as soon as possible.

Take it easy...I was just trying to make a funny.
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Take it easy...I was just trying to make a funny.

I meant to Quote Indian Charlie. I wasn't mad....I just think it's funny that nobody noticed that we started making sure the scratches were available as early as possible months ago.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:42 PM
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I meant to Quote Indian Charlie. I wasn't mad....I just think it's funny that nobody noticed that we started making sure the scratches were available as early as possible months ago.
It's not so much the late scratches I was talking about. Why not post the early scratches the night before, like SoCal tracks do?

Late scratches are something impossible to post early, but hey, what's the harm in posting the early changes earlier?
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