Hall of Fame selections

[philcski]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=4083623

Baffert, Tiznow, Silverbulletday, Maple lead the list.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by philcski

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=4083623

Baffert, Tiznow, Silverbulletday, Maple lead the list.

Man, it seems like Solis will never get in. At this point it seems Rudy Rodriguez will get in before Solis.

[Heels1989]

Congrats to all, but most happy for Maple. Long overdue in my opinion.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Man, it seems like Solis will never get in. At this point it seems Rudy Rodriguez will get in before Solis.

Solis is a nice person, but he really doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Now if you had a Hall of Shame we could put him in for his post selection and ride on Brother Derik in the Derby.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Solis is a nice person, but he really doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Now if you had a Hall of Shame we could put him in for his post selection and ride on Brother Derik in the Derby.

I think if he won just one Kentucky Derby he would have been in by now. He has won a few BC races, bunch of other Grade I's. I think if Eddie D, McCarron, Kent D (He is in already right ?),Pincay,and Stevens are in, he probably should be in as well.

The only ones from that crew who aren't in are Solis and Pat V. Pval, while deserving on accomlishments, will never get in because he is such a fu#k up off of the track. Now I am not saying Solis is as accomplished as that above group......but he has ridden very comeptitively in what was probably the toughest jock colony to compete against at that time.

It doesnt really make sense to me that Mike Smith is in, and Solis isn't.

[KirisClown]

Sky Beauty gets brushed aside again...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Silverbulletday was better.

[KirisClown]

I think we had this conversation already...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a filly better than Silverbulletday from as a 2-year-old through the summer of her 3-year-old season.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You think DrugS? I remember Silverbulletday beating up on a lot of filth.

Excellent Meeting was beaten just 2 lengths in the Kentucky Derby.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think you forget what kind of a rider Mike Smith was early to mid 90's in New York. He won basically every major race and rode a lot of champions.

Its not even close in career accomplishments between Solis and Smith when it comes to winning big races, and Mike is younger. I would imagine Mike has won 50 more grade 1 races then Solis, and done it all over the country as well.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Its not even close in career accomplishments between Solis and Smith when it comes to winning big races, and Mike is younger. I would imagine Mike has won 50 more grade 1 races then Solis, and done it all over the country as well.

I knew I could draw you into this conversation.

[KirisClown]

Excellent Meeting gave her a good beating once as a 2yr old..

1998 Del Mar Debutante: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99V8epsucOI

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Its not even close in career accomplishments between Solis and Smith when it comes to winning big races, and Mike is younger. I would imagine Mike has won 50 more grade 1 races then Solis, and done it all over the country as well.

But Smith loses all credibility for being on Jockeys and showing the world his relationship with Sutherland. The HOF should kick him out based on that horrible show.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Did they face each other at 3? I don't remember. I remember Silverbulletday beating up on slugs. Excellent Meeting was okay, although she was a non threatening 5th, while beaten 2 lengths in that Derby. She never really did much after that though.

They were kept seperate at age 3. Silverbulletday won 2 out of 3 meetings at age 2.

Silverbulletday won 14 of 16 races through the summer of her 3yo season - including 13 Graded Stakes wins at 8 different racetracks.

She won graded stakes ranging from 5.5 furlongs to a 10 furlong win in the Alabama with a 115 Beyer.

The other of her two early defeats came in the Belmont Stakes .. where she was on the lead for the first 1 1/4 miles in what was a fast paced race. She basically tried badly in the final quarter but ran a very strong race for 10fs.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

Excellent Meeting gave her a good beating once as a 2yr old..

1998 Del Mar Debutante: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99V8epsucOI

That was like her only bad race... but she got hooked up head-to-head in a speed duel with a longshot outside of her through wicked fractions.

Not many fillies who have 21 and change speed and can win races at 5.5fs by double digit lengths can see out 10 furlongs as effective as she could.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Serena's Song was better and beat better.

But Serena's Song doesn't have plates that NYRA still tries to give out/sell for the jockey fund

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

But Smith loses all credibility for being on Jockeys and showing the world his relationship with Sutherland. The HOF should kick him out based on that horrible show.

thats not a bad gig, 6 moths of the year he is with her and the other 6 months he can freelance.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Serena's Song was better and beat better.

Good call... Serena's Song beat some horses that would have manhandled Silverbulletday...

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

thats not a bad gig, 6 moths of the year he is with her and the other 6 months he can freelance.

I am not saying it's a bad gig. Going on tv and playing kissy kissy with her twice a week is beyond nauseating though. I mean how many times can we watch Smith and her drinking wine and talking about their relationship.