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Old 04-06-2009, 11:56 AM
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Better now than in two weeks. He should be fine.

Chuck probably can fill in more but four weeks out seems like enough time to me.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:00 PM
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Better now than in two weeks. He should be fine.

Chuck probably can fill in more but four weeks out seems like enough time to me.

If he misses training time he will become a auto-toss for me.

Unless you are 100% the best shape you can be in, you dont win the Derby.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:51 PM
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I guess now the talk will revert back to "Dunkirk!!". Ugh.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:39 PM
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I guess now the talk will revert back to "Dunkirk!!". Ugh.
anything out of the norm will hurt Qr, and i doubt they will run him in the derby if it hampers his training , however to many others showed me more to talk about Dunkirk, i just can't see what the fascination is with this horse.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
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i just can't see what the fascination is with this horse.
Maybe because he ran second to Quality Road? I dunno, that might be a stretch.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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That stinks
this with the I Want Revenge connections under a cloud, I guess the stars are aligned for POTH.
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That stinks
this with the I Want Revenge connections under a cloud, I guess the stars are aligned for POTH.
Who?
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:54 PM
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Maybe because he ran second to Quality Road? I dunno, that might be a stretch.
yes he did but was beat easily in a small field, and he reminds me of casino drive last year all talk. will i eat my words maybe, but until he beats someone he's just a runner.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:00 PM
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If he misses training time he will become a auto-toss for me.

Unless you are 100% the best shape you can be in, you dont win the Derby.
Thats what I'm thinking...they won't run him if he's not healthy, but if he misses even a little training at this point it's not good.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
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You have to wonder whether the hard, fast track on Florida Derby Day caused a prior condition to resurface. This is the part of the tracks' fascination with souped-up racing surfaces that never ceases to amaze me. Sure, maybe you'll put on a show that might fool the uninformed masses that attend "big race" days, but at what cost to your horse population down the road.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:20 PM
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You have to wonder whether the hard, fast track on Florida Derby Day caused a prior condition to resurface. This is the part of the tracks' fascination with souped-up racing surfaces that never ceases to amaze me. Sure, maybe you'll put on a show that might fool the uninformed masses that attend "big race" days, but at what cost to your horse population down the road.

when I saw the headline the first thing I thoght was... the track was too hard and fast and caused the quarter crack

I wonder if Scat dad.. I mean Quality Road will wear a bar shoe
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:29 PM
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when I saw the headline the first thing I thoght was... the track was too hard and fast and caused the quarter crack

I wonder if Scat dad.. I mean Quality Road will wear a bar shoe

also if he wears a bar shoe he's an auto toss.

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Old 04-07-2009, 08:48 AM
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Better now than in two weeks. He should be fine.

Chuck probably can fill in more but four weeks out seems like enough time to me.

looks like he is out Phil - rear crack

the owner doesn't need the $ , doubt he goes on the 1st saturday

he will be rested up and probably sent to the Dwyer
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looks like he is out Phil - rear crack

the owner doesn't need the $ , doubt he goes on the 1st saturday

he will be rested up and probably sent to the Dwyer

sorry, is there a link to this or just personal opinion?

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:23 AM
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the injury is a fact

the rest is a personal opinion - i don't think with this type of owner and trainer there is a need to run this horse hurt to try and win a ky derby

they will do what's best for the horse long term , instead of what's best for them short term , if that makes sense

i will say he doesn't run

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Old 04-07-2009, 10:27 AM
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Buckpasser seemed to have the Triple Crown at his mercy, after having won the Everglades and Flamingo (Hialeah equivalents of current Fountain of Youth and Fla Derby). But up came the quartercrack and he missed the entire series while it healed. When he came back in June, he then ran the table the rest of the year (Brooklyn H, Travers, Woodward, JCCGold Cup, etc.), champion 3yo, HotY.

Moral of the story: Let your horse heal. He will reward you in the long run. No race, not even the Kentucky Derby, is worth the increased risk of ruining him.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:29 AM
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Buckpasser seemed to have the Triple Crown at his mercy, after having won the Everglades and Flamingo (Hialeah equivalents of current Fountain of Youth and Fla Derby). But up came the quartercrack and he missed the entire series while it healed. When he came back in June, he then ran the table the rest of the year (Brooklyn H, Travers, Woodward, JCCGold Cup, etc.), champion 3yo, HotY.

Moral of the story: Let your horse heal. He will reward you in the long run. No race, not even the Kentucky Derby, is worth the increased risk of ruining him.

mostly all the owners who care about the animal agree with the above
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:39 AM
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I guess it will depend on QR's individual case
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