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04-06-2009, 11:00 AM
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I think if you're sitting in the dining room, if your bill is x amount of dollars you shouldn't have to pay a seating fee. Most tracks have overpriced food as it is.
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04-06-2009, 11:01 AM
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04-06-2009, 11:11 AM
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you cant beat the price I was giving you food for!
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04-06-2009, 11:51 AM
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04-06-2009, 01:00 PM
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One of the most tired arguments I hear people make is that you pay $50 to sit at a ballgame, so sitting at the track for $20 is quite the deal. Well, when they start offering gambling at the ballpark, let me know, otherwise that argument is super weak.
Most racetracks make about ~20% off a dollar wagered on-track on the live product. Without factoring in contributions to purses, taxes etc., a $20 seat given away for free would need $100 worth of wagering action to offset its worth, provided it's on the live product. Would random visitor, if given a $20 seat for free, wager $100? If they were not given the $20 seat for free, and had to pay for it, would they wager $80? That's assuming that visitors when attending the races have an average spend of $100. At Lone Star, the per-capita wagering is not $100... people go to the track and enjoy racing, but don't really bet. So, offsetting their lack of action with a seat cost makes sense. The question is... what is a fair price for a seat?
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04-06-2009, 01:01 PM
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I'll get seats on Million Day here, but other than that, don't see a need for it at all when there are plenty of good places to hang out.
And on almost every day, there are free seats at Arlington anyway.
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04-07-2009, 01:41 AM
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04-06-2009, 05:08 PM
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04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
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04-06-2009, 07:16 PM
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Philadelphia Park - free admission, free parking.
Live racing program - $2. Tip sheet from the legendary local handicapper Craig Donnelly - $2. DRF with about 7-10 tracks in it (depending on the day) - $6.25. Grandstand seating on the fifth floor, free to whomever wants it. Seats at various bars, or tables in the common wagering areas - free. Seat charge in turf terrace dining room - none. Picnic tables from late April to October come with umbrellas and all - free. Bring coolers and grills and whatever you choose, just no glass bottles. Apron benches - free. Track takeout - higher than normal for most jurisdictions - blame the state, not the track. Racing quality and field sizes - improving the last two years. Slot machines - of course...a whole bunch of course, and it's regularly busy. Food concessions selection relatively limited but if you hang outside and bring your own...it's all good. Seems like a deal compared to Lone Star.
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04-06-2009, 11:00 PM
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Per Capita, there aren't too many tracks who draw better than Oaklawn Park during it's season. Reserved seating is very reasonable. I have five seats on the finish line for the Arkansas Derby at 4.50 each. My tickets for the other days are only 2.50. I got a table at Remington for the Olklahoma Derby for only $15. Food was good and the cocktails were heavily poured thanks to a little tip up front. The racing wasn't that great but the experience of the day was good. It's entertainment boys and girls. Think about it.
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04-06-2009, 05:10 PM
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04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
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