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Old 03-28-2009, 09:50 PM
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Square Eddie
Big Drama
A horse or two from the Blue Grass.
A horse from the Illinois Derby.
The Lexington winner.
I'll agree with the bottom three, but the top two, come on....Do you really think that either will be going to the Derby, one was all over the track and isn't a horse that stays healthy, and the other hasn't raced since January, and needs everything to go perfect for him to be even considered.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:52 PM
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I'll agree with the bottom three, but the top two, come on....Do you really think that either will be going to the Derby, one was all over the track and isn't a horse that stays healthy, and the other hasn't raced since January, and needs everything to go perfect for him to be even considered.
I wouldn't be shocked at all if Reddam & O'Neil put Square Eddie in the Derby.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:54 PM
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I wouldn't be shocked at all if Reddam & O'Neil put Square Eddie in the Derby.
I would be, but hell, do it, allows me to toss a horse with ease and he will get played...
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:00 PM
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I wouldn't be shocked at all if Reddam & O'Neil put Square Eddie in the Derby.

i wouldn't either. not one bit.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:08 PM
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The Lexington is a graded stakes race three weeks from today. If Dunkirk recovers well off this race he could run it that race.

If the connections want to get the earning needed to qualify for the Derby they have the chance. I'm sure Pletcher/ Tabor have a Plan B mapped out.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:17 PM
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this is what pletcher said pre-fla derby:

A second puts us where we're on the bubble. … If we're in that situation, my gut reaction is that this will be his last start before the Kentucky Derby. If for some reason he doesn't get in, we'll just have to live with that and go on to the next step, which could be the Preakness."


so, seemingly they won't be at churchill unless his current standing ends up high enough in a few weeks time-and i doubt the earnings he has accumulated will actually be enough after all the 'preps' are run. of course, we all know in this sport that things can change...but it doesn't appear that they have a plan to change their schedule and try to squeeze in another race before may.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:37 PM
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The Lexington is a graded stakes race three weeks from today. If Dunkirk recovers well off this race he could run it that race.

If the connections want to get the earning needed to qualify for the Derby they have the chance. I'm sure Pletcher/ Tabor have a Plan B mapped out.
I think their Plan B was to run a rabbit, and regardless, win today.

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Old 03-29-2009, 06:47 AM
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The Lexington is a graded stakes race three weeks from today. If Dunkirk recovers well off this race he could run it that race.

If the connections want to get the earning needed to qualify for the Derby they have the chance. I'm sure Pletcher/ Tabor have a Plan B mapped out.
The problem with running back in the Lexington is that THEN he's got two weeks to the Derby. When has Todd manaed to win a major race off 2 weeks? It's possible but improbable.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:40 AM
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The problem with running back in the Lexington is that THEN he's got two weeks to the Derby. When has Todd manaed to win a major race off 2 weeks? It's possible but improbable.
remember when he was not going to run bluegrass cat back, and everyone fussed, so he changed his mind? he lost to bernardini, and suffered an injury as well.
i don't think dunkirk runs again before the derby.
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Providing DUNKIRK came out in good shape I think Pletcher and Tabor will change their mind and run one more time before the Derby. It was the way they ran second that might change their mind. In their minds considering the track they probably thought they ran best yesterday in a losing effort. Looking ahead they'll get not only the distance of the Derby in their favor but rabbits like THE PAMPLEMOUSSE, OLD FASHIONED and etc if the races play to form.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:59 PM
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I'll agree with the bottom three, but the top two, come on....Do you really think that either will be going to the Derby, one was all over the track and isn't a horse that stays healthy, and the other hasn't raced since January, and needs everything to go perfect for him to be even considered.
Square Eddie's people say he's on track for the Derby. And Big Drama's connections have not ruled it out. And even if they had, I still say he's going.
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Square Eddie's people say he's on track for the Derby. And Big Drama's connections have not ruled it out. And even if they had, I still say he's going.

i dont think Big Drama goes. Hes a really nice sprinter and his trainer understands that. If they go though... I really dont blame them... the Derby is the Derby.

It will be a great Derby i just really hope Dunkirk runs cause he's my early pick AS OF NOW!
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Old 03-29-2009, 04:03 AM
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Maybe Tabor and company will buy some of the less valuable horses ahead of Dunkirk on the earnings list and then simply not run them.
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:57 AM
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i dont think Big Drama goes. Hes a really nice sprinter and his trainer understands that. If they go though... I really dont blame them... the Derby is the Derby.

It will be a great Derby i just really hope Dunkirk runs cause he's my early pick AS OF NOW!
I really hope they don't go with Big Drama. He is what he is, 8.5f is probably his max unless he can get an easy lead. If he were mine, the Met Mile would be the goal....

I don't think Fawkes or Queen will get Derby Fever.
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:14 AM
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I'll agree with the bottom three, but the top two, come on....Do you really think that either will be going to the Derby, one was all over the track and isn't a horse that stays healthy, and the other hasn't raced since January, and needs everything to go perfect for him to be even considered.
Every year people run horses in the Derby because they can and not because they should. Why would this year be any different?
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