A.I.G....unfreakinreal

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i remember it differently. Republicans weren't whining about where is the change. Republicans ridiculed people for not looking at the details, for getting caught up in a cult, for not looking at his marxist history, not looking at his total lack of experience. Republicans did this not because they thought he wouldn't change anything as president, but because they feared the changes he might make as president.

So far we've been 100% correct. These first two months have been nothing short of a disaster. A person hell bent on destroying the country would not have been worse.

Oh because he stepped into a hell hole.

Who in God's name would have made the first two months
better on a ship that was already going down? No one in
their right mind would have expected to be on the Love Boat
two months after it had already hit an iceberg.


There is no quick fix. Obama's fix may well be the wrong one.
But based on what has happened so far, it is impossible to
say at this time his plan is a failure as of right now.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Oh because he stepped into a hell hole.

Who in God's name would have made the first two months
better on a ship that was already going down? No one in
their right mind would have expected to be on the Love Boat
two months after it had already hit an iceberg.


There is no quick fix. Obama's fix may well be the wrong one.
But based on what has happened so far, it is impossible to
say at this time his plan is a failure as of right now.

his domestic proposals have created utter chaos when what we needed was some stability. his proposals and spending plans are off the charts stupid, and will be trimmed back significantly by his own party.

his foreign policy seems to be based on sending appeasing videos or letters to every country that has threatened us or Israel, while at the same time snubbing countries that are vital allies.

meanwhile he continues with his perpetual campaign and messiah tour, townhall rallies, Leno, 60 Minutes, ESPN, weekly parties, etc.

even his adoring press are starting to see through the facade. he was royally ripped apart in the New York Times this weekend. that should tell you something.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

meanwhile he continues with his perpetual campaign and messiah tour, townhall rallies, Leno, 60 Minutes, ESPN, weekly parties, etc.

even his adoring press are starting to see through the facade. he was royally ripped apart in the New York Times this weekend. that should tell you something.

its so ridiculous how often President Obama is on tv... Leno, 60 min, ESPN... he's acting like he has no work to do. I feel its actually insulting.. I'm sure others feel different. He's on these shows laughing and joking around while the country he runs is a total mess. Its like he forgot he actually won and still wants to campaign.

Can you please post a link to the Times story over the weekend? I'd like to read it.

Thanks!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

He's on his ranch laughing and joking around and clearing brush while the country he runs is a total mess.

FTFY....the '01-'08 version.

So really, conservatives keep saying that we should stop talking about Bush because he's in the past, but we'd probably have a much better chance of actually having to come up with another rebuttal if they'd stop making it so freakin' easy with the manufactured outrage over the same stuff their boy did for nearly the last decade. BFD.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

FTFY....the '01-'08 version.

So really, conservatives keep saying that we should stop talking about Bush because he's in the past, but we'd probably have a much better chance of actually having to come up with another rebuttal if they'd stop making it so freakin' easy with the manufactured outrage over the same stuff their boy did for nearly the last decade. BFD.

um, my post had nothing to do with Bush. But of course this is the liberal response to Obama criticism.

Geez its not like I actaully thought Bush was a good president.. and so far I feel the same way about Obama.

I hope he changes my feelings.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

um, my post had nothing to do with Bush. But of course this is the liberal response to Obama criticism.

Geez its not like I actaully thought Bush was a good president.. and so far I feel the same way about Obama.

I hope he changes my feelings.

I know your post had nothing to do with Bush, my whole point was to make a comment on the "typical liberal response" meme that's going on right now.

It's a result of the fact that after eight years, conservatives as a group (maybe you and some others excluded on occasion) have all of the sudden found out that they're outraged and offended by certain things....that have not bothered them one bit for eight years. Example. Bush spending. Good. Obama spending. Bad. Obama not being at command central 24/7 while the country is crumbling. Bad. Bush not being at command central 24/7 while the country is crumbling. Totally okay. That's my point...is that way too many of you are making it way too easy to just point back at Bush, point out that after eight years of sitting idly by about certain things, that you don't have a leg to stand on for certain issues.

This was one of them...and my 'typical liberal response' was basically the perfect response, so my point was well taken, I see, by the fact that you labeled it as such.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I know your post had nothing to do with Bush, my whole point was to make a comment on the "typical liberal response" meme that's going on right now.

It's a result of the fact that after eight years, conservatives as a group (maybe you and some others excluded on occasion) have all of the sudden found out that they're outraged and offended by certain things....that have not bothered them one bit for eight years. Example. Bush spending. Good. Obama spending. Bad. Obama not being at command central 24/7 while the country is crumbling. Bad. Bush not being at command central 24/7 while the country is crumbling. Totally okay. That's my point...is that way too many of you are making it way too easy to just point back at Bush, point out that after eight years of sitting idly by about certain things, that you don't have a leg to stand on for certain issues.

This was one of them...and my 'typical liberal response' was basically the perfect response, so my point was well taken, I see, by the fact that you labeled it as such.

I'm sorry.. but Bush being a bad President for 8 years doesnt excuse Obama for being a bad President (IMO) for the past two months.

And the majority of conservatives on here and in the world feel exactly the same way about Bush... the spending was horrible and I think it was never okay with most conservatives. My Dad is as big of a Republican as it gets (like Chuck) and he always talks about how horrible and non-conservative Bush was when it came to spending. It was an outrage.

Now, we have an extremely liberal president, pretending to govern from the center, who is making the Bush spending look like pocket change. Its outrageous.

Now its obvious, that Bush made a ton of mistakes... but to keep on using that as excuses for Obama is not productive.

I really want Obama to do well... I'd love to see 4 or 8 years from now Obama going down as the greatest President ever... getting us successfully out of a recession while maintaining the American principles and values that has made us the greatest country in the world. I want to see him keep the American dream alive. I'd love to see him figure out how to create and maintain peace and stability in the Middle East.

I just dont think spending a trillion dollars a day is going to be the answer. (of course a slight exaggeration)

[Riot]

Can you please post a link to the Times story over the weekend? I'd like to read it. Thanks!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/23/op...rsch.html?_r=1

[Smooth Operator]

The only confirmed "disaster" at this point was the Bush presidency.

[Smooth Operator]

Lol ... cons conveniently forgetting about all the vacations their guy took over the last eight years.