3/7 (SA): SA H. (Gr. I); Kilroe (Gr. I); SA Oaks (Gr. I); Honest Lady (L)

Bobby Fischer · #1 03-06-2009, 12:13 AM

Magnum
Stream Cat
Einstein

Monba should run a solid race. Pletcher is no longer an auto-toss, and this is a fairly strong horse. I usually don't like a barns "B" horse, but this is a big enough race that it doesn't really matter.

Deep race with no obvious standout. If I wanted to hit the exacta for almost certain, I would need to box 8.
Of those 8 the longshot is 20-1 Stream Cat, who figures to grind his way past most of the rivals in the late stages.
The lowest ml price who I would exclude from my exacta would be 9-2 Colonel John, who finds life much more difficult facing actual older male turf horses who are suited to the track, than a potpurri of mediocre west coast 3yos.

letswastemoney · #2 03-06-2009, 03:33 AM

I would have thought Einstein would have been ML favorite. He probably will be the final odds favorite.

Danzig · #3 03-06-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I would have thought Einstein would have been ML favorite. He probably will be the final odds favorite.

or cowboy cal.

Habersham000 · #4 03-06-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by monipenny

Actually I would be hard pressed not to believe Pletcher is almost being blamed for a conflict of interest w/ both Cowboy Cal and Monba in the same race. Thank the lord above they are uncoupled in the wagering for the Big Cap on Saturday. Cowboy Cal had a lot of sentimental reasons for being the only horse that Stonerside kept after selling the farm in Ky and almost every single broodmare and horses racing and in training. Does that mean the racing world rolls over for a feel good guy like McNair to win a $1,000,000 race- No Way. But Monba I can asure is not second fiddle to anyone in here. If anything it's the other way around as Monba w/ edgar easily dispatched of Cowbay Cal in the Blue Grass at Keeneland. Which I believe was Monba's best race to date and Edgar really fits this horse also. Also, McNair HAD to liquidate his assets to buy out his partner for full rights to the Houston Texans. Starlight Partners are much more involved in the game then McNair is or maybe will be in the future. So I believe Pletcher is acting in the best interests of both parties. And while I believe IMO that Monba will prove to be best in the Big Cap that's why I love to watch and wager on horse racing.

I know they also kept Stonesider who stands at Highcliff in New York...who is honestly one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen in person....Anyway I love Blue Exit here, 3rd off layoff, had a rough trip last race and only lost 3/4 of a length to Cowboy Cal. He likes the SA pro-ride surface. He has worked back 3 times since his last race. I think he could upset this field.

GBBob · #5 03-06-2009, 12:16 PM

Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

herkhorse · #6 03-06-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

Nice! Congrats Brian

Antitrust32 · #7 03-06-2009, 12:37 PM

how bad is horseracing when Cowboy Cow is considered a good racehorse?

Habersham000 · #8 03-06-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

how bad is horseracing when Cowboy Cow is considered a good racehorse?

How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

letswastemoney · #9 03-06-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000

How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

He's no Tiago

ArlJim78 · #10 03-06-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000

How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

it makes me laugh also. he's not a good horse? his record 11 6-3-0, one bad race on dirt.
other wise he's never out of the exacta in graded stakes and game as hell down the lane. i'm not sure how he'll like 10F, but i'll be using him because of his consistency on the surface.

SniperSB23 · #11 03-06-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

Wow, ESPN, big time. Congrats Brian.

ddthetide · #12 03-06-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

congrats BWS !

lemoncrush · #13 03-06-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000

I know they also kept Stonesider who stands at Highcliff in New York...who is honestly one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen in person....Anyway I love Blue Exit here, 3rd off layoff, had a rough trip last race and only lost 3/4 of a length to Cowboy Cal. He likes the SA pro-ride surface. He has worked back 3 times since his last race. I think he could upset this field.

I agree.....Blue Exit will be in my tri.
Einstein is the real mystery horse to me, who I'm terrified to toss.
And Court Vision is my longshot play.

Bobby Fischer · #14 03-06-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by monipenny

Actually I would be hard pressed not to believe Pletcher is almost being blamed for a conflict of interest w/ both Cowboy Cal and Monba in the same race. Thank the lord above they are uncoupled in the wagering for the Big Cap on Saturday. Cowboy Cal had a lot of sentimental reasons for being the only horse that Stonerside kept after selling the farm in Ky and almost every single broodmare and horses racing and in training. Does that mean the racing world rolls over for a feel good guy like McNair to win a $1,000,000 race- No Way. But Monba I can asure is not second fiddle to anyone in here. If anything it's the other way around as Monba w/ edgar easily dispatched of Cowbay Cal in the Blue Grass at Keeneland. Which I believe was Monba's best race to date and Edgar really fits this horse also. Also, McNair HAD to liquidate his assets to buy out his partner for full rights to the Houston Texans. Starlight Partners are much more involved in the game then McNair is or maybe will be in the future. So I believe Pletcher is acting in the best interests of both parties. And while I believe IMO that Monba will prove to be best in the Big Cap that's why I love to watch and wager on horse racing.

Oh yea. It is a blessing to all those planning on using Monba, that they remain uncoupled. I don't necessarily think Monba is worse than Cowboy Cal, although the public clearly does. Cowboy Cal is a very good horse from a mile up to about 9 furlongs on the synthetic, especially if it is playing to speed. However 10 furlongs is going to take a lot of heart for him. I like Monba slightly better for win and place, and much beter for 3rd and 4th. Would like to see him run well.

Einstein really ran a big race last time, and there is a big temptation to feature him because of the public probably missing that he was probably best in the Donn. Einstein is probably also the answer of "Who is the best older turf horse in this race?" - which is usually the question that leads to the key horse in a 10 furlong synthetic race.

Magnum was the most impressive visually of all last out.