ny pick 4 today early + pic 3 payouts

freddymo · #1 03-05-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns.

Who could be so fn stupid to bet Serling's laimos?

dellinger63 · #2 03-05-2009, 08:23 PM

only the ones that bet today. But he needs to develop a code or audible IMO.

jpops757 · #3 03-06-2009, 09:49 AM

The only way a win parlay is a true reflection of the pay out is if you make a straight p3 or pk4 bet. Most pk3s and 4s are wheels and every time you hit a win bet the winnings have to be split up between the horses in the next leg. Comparing the payoffs to a win parlay isnot very objective. If you had a winning ticket on any of these races . The true $2 pay out caan be calculated but a straight $2 parlay is not accurate.

blackthroatedwind · #4 03-06-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

The only way a win parlay is a true reflection of the pay out is if you make a straight p3 or pk4 bet. Most pk3s and 4s are wheels and every time you hit a win bet the winnings have to be split up between the horses in the next leg. Comparing the payoffs to a win parlay isnot very objective. If you had a winning ticket on any of these races . The true $2 pay out caan be calculated but a straight $2 parlay is not accurate.

Ummmm......no.

Scav · #5 03-06-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Ummmm......no.

I am curious, and I am being serious, why not?

When I was at Toga, I was messing around with the win parlay cards and unless I am mistaken, that was exactly how it was done.

blackthroatedwind · #6 03-06-2009, 10:08 AM

The only reason the parlay is slightly debatable is that perhaps the amount you wager on a horse could affect the odds. Your spread play plays no role in calculating parlays.

blackthroatedwind · #7 03-06-2009, 10:13 AM

By the way, this is directly relevent to yesterday, where a $750 win bet ( roughly the parlay of race 2 through 4 ) would have knocked the 5th winner's odds down 2 or more points.

Of course, in a relatively small pool like yesterday, where there was $15 on the winning combo, it is hardly surprising the payout was short the parlay.

dagolfer33 · #8 03-06-2009, 10:31 AM

Just let me hit some P3s and P4s.....I'll take my chances on the payouts and not complain. Now if you want to get me pissed, we can talk about the several P4 dead heats and the f'ed up pool splitting thats involved there.

gales0678 · #9 03-06-2009, 10:31 AM

the payout came back short on the early p4 , it came back less than 50% of the win parlay - all i wanted to do was point it out , i realize the pools are independent of each other , but , this was a big variance yesterday and all players s/b aware of this so they can bet accordingly

it appears as though there are 2 groups of bettors in ny , both have access to the same figures etc, etc , but it's like both of the groups are on different islands , and on one of the islands the bettors can only bet win and on the other they can only bet the pic's

jpops757 · #10 03-06-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, this is directly relevent to yesterday, where a $750 win bet ( roughly the parlay of race 2 through 4 ) would have knocked the 5th winner's odds down 2 or more points.

Of course, in a relatively small pool like yesterday, where there was $15 on the winning combo, it is hardly surprising the payout was short the parlay.

The only way this would reflect a parlay is if you had a single in the next race.