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gales0678 03-05-2009 01:42 PM

ny pick 4 today early + pic 3 payouts
 
I am not going to complain i an not going to cry i just want to post some numbers and people can interpet them how they feel and respond

PIck 4 win parlay for $2 pays over $18,000 , actual $2 pick 4 pays 8,686 , or less than 50% of the win parlay of the winners

Pick 3

races 2-4 pays $1,739 (win parlay pays $1,031) - this seems to be a good one

races 3-5 pays $1,470 (win parlay pays $2,318) - can this be right?

rces 4 -6 pays $2,364 9 (win parlay pays $2,982)

how does the pick 3 payoff pay more for races 2-4 then races 3-5? i just don't get it?

tiznowthegreat 03-05-2009 01:51 PM

Not sure about this one, but on Foster day this year at Churchill the late P4 paid more than the P6. Only time I have seen that.

Kasept 03-05-2009 01:53 PM

Marty,

They are individual pools. There are vagaries. How have the guaranteed Saturday P4 pools paid like 2X the parlay these first three weeks? How does the Magna 5 pay twice the parlay some weeks?

Multi-race pools are not formulamatic...

gales0678 03-05-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Marty,

They are individual pools. There are vagaries. How have the guaranteed Saturday P4 pools paid like 2X the parlay these first three weeks? How does the Magna 5 pay twice the parlay some weeks?

Multi-race pools are not formulamatic...


Steve - shouldn't the p4's or p5's always pay more than the win parlay or at the very least around 85% of the win parlay? How can today's pick 4 come back only around 45% of the win parlay , i would have thought the early pick4should have paid around $25k

i can understand a payout that is 80 - 90 % of the win parlay , but when we get down into the 60% or even today like the 40% range it's very strange

gales0678 03-05-2009 02:17 PM

see post #1 added races 4-6

Scav 03-05-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
see post #1 added races 4-6

You have lost your mind

Scav 03-05-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
The pools are different. This is probably the 10th time minimum this has been explained. What is the confusion? Your way of figuring out the payoffs is wrong, no matter who is telling you different.

This stuff is supposed to be fun and bring some enjoyment. What's the point of betting if nearly everyday you're whining about something else?

the main thing that needs to be said that just because a horse is 8/1 in the Win Pool, that doesn't mean the horse was 8/1 in the P4 pool.

You do it for enjoyment? I do it because I love the pain of running 2nd all the f'n time

golfer 03-05-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
the main thing that needs to be said that just because a horse is 8/1 in the Win Pool, that doesn't mean the horse was 8/1 in the P4 pool.

You do it for enjoyment? I do it because I love the pain of running 2nd all the f'n time


Please.. sometimes your horse finishes 4th (in a 2 horse race).

Scav 03-05-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
Please.. sometimes your horse finishes 4th (in a 2 horse race).

I could **** up a free lunch or whatever the saying it :)

Kasept 03-05-2009 06:06 PM

No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns.

GPK 03-05-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Is that similar to the GPK effect at Tampa? :rolleyes:

:mad: :mad:

Payson Dave 03-05-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Is that similar to the GPK effect at Tampa? :rolleyes:

I laughed :p

slotdirt 03-05-2009 06:27 PM

I'd believe the Serling effect would be the exact opposite of the GPK effect, i.e., folks run from GPK's picks like rats from a sinking ship.

GPK 03-05-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I'd believe the Serling effect would be the exact opposite of the GPK effect, i.e., folks run from GPK's picks like rats from a sinking ship.

:rolleyes:

Hello to you too John

gales0678 03-05-2009 06:49 PM

:eek: :eek:
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Originally Posted by Kasept
No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns.


that is correct steve , if 1 used his horses , you would have hit both p 4's

i know what happened , the guys who hit the early p4 were so elated , they cashed out , headed back to the city , made a dinner reservation and invited andy out as a thank you for him giving out so many winners, they realized they forgot to put in the late p4 but they didn't care as the early one paid telephone #s

i can see the gang there now , at Del Frisco's , they have just finished the seafood appitzer that goes for a samll fortune , the steaks are on their way out , and the waitress from Alaska , who is simply breath -taking , is pouring the red wine with a big smile on her face ,asking for the winner of saturday's gotham , and she pleads come on guys everyone has to eat once and a while:eek:

freddymo 03-05-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns.

Who could be so fn stupid to bet Serling's laimos?


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