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Old 03-03-2009, 02:03 PM
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And you expected differently? Some just don't like how he is spending the money ( as compared to the person we aren't allowed to mention anymore)...

I guess I expected (or hoped) that he would be governing from the center... which what I was getting real excited about pre-inaugeration (sp?) when he seemed to be going towards the center.

Instead he is more left than everyone I've seen in my lifetime combined.

I just REALLY hope he doesnt start this Universal Healthcare thing... I'm all for reforming healthcare and making it more affordable (it needs to be - and start with the lawyers who sue the crap out of doctors and hospitals - and then kick the greedy pharmacutical companies in the gonads). Socialized medicine is just such a horrible idea. Obama should go live in a country that has socialized health care and he will change his mind RIGHT away.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:13 PM
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I guess I expected (or hoped) that he would be governing from the center... which what I was getting real excited about pre-inaugeration (sp?) when he seemed to be going towards the center.

Instead he is more left than everyone I've seen in my lifetime combined.

I just REALLY hope he doesnt start this Universal Healthcare thing... I'm all for reforming healthcare and making it more affordable (it needs to be - and start with the lawyers who sue the crap out of doctors and hospitals - and then kick the greedy pharmacutical companies in the gonads). Socialized medicine is just such a horrible idea. Obama should go live in a country that has socialized health care and he will change his mind RIGHT away.

remember folks he was listed as the most liberal senator in the senate last yr or in '07 - that's what was in the form Lori , left wing projects , left wing spending , why anyone thought it would be different is a shock to me , people talk in elections but in relaity we had joke for 8 yrs and that was that the dems had claimed that cheny ran the country , well if anyone things obama is in charge here you gotta be out of your mind , the country is being run by the majority leader of the house who couldn;t get elected in 95 % of the districts across the county , harrry reid takes his marching orders from her , everyone though that hillary would be the 1st female president , but , Mrs Pelosi has taken over from Cheny as the de facto leader of this country right now, Obama has to bow to her to get anything done
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:17 PM
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remember folks he was listed as the most liberal senator in the senate last yr or in '07 - that's what was in the form Lori , left wing projects , left wing spending , why anyone thought it would be different is a shock to me , people talk in elections but in relaity we had joke for 8 yrs and that was that the dems had claimed that cheny ran the country , well if anyone things obama is in charge here you gotta be out of your mind , the country is being run by the majority leader of the house who couldn;t get elected in 95 % of the districts across the county , harrry reid takes his marching orders from her , everyone though that hillary would be the 1st female president , but , Mrs Pelosi has taken over from Cheny as the de facto leader of this country right now, Obama has to bow to her to get anything done

I knew the stats on Obama... I was just hoping it would be different. Its not like I voted for the guy!!! I just was hoping for the best... I still am but am very worried about what I'm seeing.


Pelosi is a moron... even Dems think so... Any time I've ever read a quote from her she comes off as clue-less. How the heck did she become the majority leader?!?!?!?!

Shoot... even Bush and Cheney are a much better option than her!!!
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:31 PM
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listen for 8 yrs i heard cheny was runnig the country - fine

now i'm telling you nancy pelosi is running the country Obama is a pawn in the game at this point , he's the guy that the party could sell to the american people , but he's like a puppet on strings no different than our former president
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:36 PM
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skidding on ice, but not yet hitting a tree, is not my definition of a good ride. to say that we will look back on bushes tenure as the good old days imo is laughable. things are bad now-that doesn't not mean it was better before. it's just varying degrees of bad.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:04 PM
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skidding on ice, but not yet hitting a tree, is not my definition of a good ride. to say that we will look back on bushes tenure as the good old days imo is laughable. things are bad now-that doesn't not mean it was better before. it's just varying degrees of bad.
its hardly laughable, by any economic measure we're much worse off then we've been for a long long time, and he only been on the job a couple of months. his actions have went over with a thud and you've even got people like Warren Buffett saying that the wrong actions are being taken.

unless you're a gitmo detainee, or a deadbeat mortgage holder (I assume you are neither) we're hardly better off now.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:17 PM
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its good to be on the sidelines right now..im glad im just a working man..not a banker or an upper admin position..your gonna get whacked..hes spending money like he found a check book..ill save the i told you so for later in the term..good news is earth wind and fire and stevie wonder get to play the white house..
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:51 PM
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its hardly laughable, by any economic measure we're much worse off then we've been for a long long time, and he only been on the job a couple of months. his actions have went over with a thud and you've even got people like Warren Buffett saying that the wrong actions are being taken.
Warren Buffet also said the Bush administration was
taking the right steps under Paul Volcker. I am beginning
to doubt anyone knows what the proper fix is.

But a whole lot of people apparently know what NOT
to do. Thanks a million. Thats a lot of help.
Your plan. Your turn.

Anyone who thought this was gonna turn around over
night... No one has a flippn clue what to do or how long
anything will take.

So lets all go out a be good
reasonable consumers. And if you cant consume,
be innovative so people will want to consume your
innovation.
My plan.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:03 PM
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its hardly laughable, by any economic measure we're much worse off then we've been for a long long time, and he only been on the job a couple of months. his actions have went over with a thud and you've even got people like Warren Buffett saying that the wrong actions are being taken.

unless you're a gitmo detainee, or a deadbeat mortgage holder (I assume you are neither) we're hardly better off now.
i'm not disagreeing that we're in bad shape now-but i disagree that bushes eight years were anything resembling 'good old days'. way too many things went wrong during his term. now, 'worse' is not as good as 'bad'-but it's still 'bad'-so, in comparison 'bad' is now 'good'? i don't think so.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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I'm all for reforming healthcare and making it more affordable (it needs to be - and start with the lawyers who sue the crap out of doctors and hospitals - and then kick the greedy pharmacutical companies in the gonads). Socialized medicine is just such a horrible idea. Obama should go live in a country that has socialized health care and he will change his mind RIGHT away.

That ain't gonna happen.. Trial attorneys are some Obama's biggest supporters. Obama said in an article in Medical Economics that there is no proof that lawsuits increase the cost of health care. He wouldn't comment on the tort reform laes in Texas.
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