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Old 02-18-2009, 09:01 PM
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without a doubt?

1-no
2-no
3-we might not ever be bestest buddies, but news like that doesn't help
4-i don't think we should give anyone foreign aid with the hope we are getting something in return. i think we should offer future aid IF they meet certain criteria first, which is what i wrote to my senator., they don't meet the criteria, they don't get the money. i don't think u.s. citizens who believe in equal rights for all should be footing the bill for countries who think half the population is less than human, undeserving of education, and shouldn't leave the house unless completely covered with only their eyes showing. there's a cleric in iraq who wants even one of the eyeholes covered! it's ridiculous.
#4 makes you a racist in the eyes of the left. Who are we to impose our ideals on sovereign nations they cry!! Of course we will be considered the the evil west if we cut funding to those poor downtrodden people (very few of which actually receive the intended aid, you know kinda like here)
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:45 PM
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#4 makes you a racist in the eyes of the left. Who are we to impose our ideals on sovereign nations they cry!! Of course we will be considered the the evil west if we cut funding to those poor downtrodden people (very few of which actually receive the intended aid, you know kinda like here)
i've been called worse. and no, much of the funding doesn't go where it was intended. kind of like how the u.n. oil for food program worked out. not very well from what i remember...

and no, we don't have to impose our ideals...we don't have to send money either. i just think we ought to get more bang for our buck. there for a while, afganistan was our #1 recipient of foreign aid-the last few years before we invaded after 9-11.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:07 PM
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i've been called worse. and no, much of the funding doesn't go where it was intended. kind of like how the u.n. oil for food program worked out. not very well from what i remember...

and no, we don't have to impose our ideals...we don't have to send money either. i just think we ought to get more bang for our buck. there for a while, afganistan was our #1 recipient of foreign aid-the last few years before we invaded after 9-11.
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$10.4 billion: Amount of aid the United States pledged for development in Afghanistan from 2002 to 2008. The United States provides a third of all development aid to Afghanistan.

$5 billion: Amount of aid the United States has actually dispersed.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us


Meanwhile Isreal and Egypt both received

$16.76 billion and $11.44 billion respectively and that is only from 2001-2006(one year less)

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/poli...oreign-aid.htm


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...362402,00.html
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:29 AM
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$10.4 billion: Amount of aid the United States pledged for development in Afghanistan from 2002 to 2008. The United States provides a third of all development aid to Afghanistan.

$5 billion: Amount of aid the United States has actually dispersed.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us


Meanwhile Isreal and Egypt both received

$16.76 billion and $11.44 billion respectively and that is only from 2001-2006(one year less)

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/poli...oreign-aid.htm


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...362402,00.html
well, i don't remember if it was the paper here or where it was that i read that back in the day...perhaps they meant per capita or something, i have no idea.

edit~i did a bit of googling....usaid, which is all humanitarian aid other than for health (they say that's a separate account, and AIDS aide to south african nations leads the way there) shows afganistan as the #1 recipient. so, perhaps when they break down how foreign aid is doled out (as i'm sure that we didn't send military aid to the taliban regime of afganistan) afganistan was larger...you know how that goes, if they slice the pie just the right way, they can show what they want you to see...or, perhaps whatever i read prefaced the remark that afghanistan was the #1 recipient with 'other than israel and egypt'. it's been too long. but i do remember reading about the amount of aid and thinking, wow we got some return on that investment!
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