Hialeah in the courts: Go Get 'Em Halsey

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think i heard over a billion dollars in handle last year. yeah, it's definitely on life support.

Use the number in context. If I make $1 million in salary this year, I've had a great year. But if I made $2 million the year before, it wasn't so great. Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

Everything is down in gaming... racing, casinos, cards, slots... all down. Using those numbers to prove racing is dying is baseless.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Everything is down in gaming... racing, casinos, cards, slots... all down. Using those numbers to prove racing is dying is baseless.

This is true. So does that change the point?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Use the number in context. If I make $1 million in salary this year, I've had a great year. But if I made $2 million the year before, it wasn't so great. Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

speaking of numbers in context... you said attendance is down, your reason to say that the sport is 'dying'. but that would be like saying only 80k watched the super bowl this year, since that's all that was in attendence. it certainly doesn't tell the whole story.
and the handle may be down-how much of that is due to almost constant disputes over wagering and signals. i heard on steves show the other day that january is down; coincidentally, january was when vegas lost some signals, wasn't it?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of numbers in context... you said attendance is down, your reason to say that the sport is 'dying'. but that would be like saying only 80k watched the super bowl this year, since that's all that was in attendence. it certainly doesn't tell the whole story.
and the handle may be down-how much of that is due to almost constant disputes over wagering and signals. i heard on steves show the other day that january is down; coincidentally, january was when vegas lost some signals, wasn't it?

As Travis straightened me out, all gambling is down. Most everything is down in our country. That doesn't scream out to me that now is the time to invest millions into building up a racetrack. But it's not my money. People thought it was a dumb idea to build another racetrack in Dallas though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

As Travis straightened me out, all gambling is down. Most everything is down in our country. That doesn't scream out to me that now is the time to invest millions into building up a racetrack. But it's not my money. People thought it was a dumb idea to build another racetrack in Dallas though.

i believe warren buffett said when everyone else gets timid, that's the time to get greedy. now would be the right time, if you have the ability, to make the attempt.
plus, what better time to try to compete with gulfstream than now? with the track reconfiguration, and how that affected their 3 yo racing, a viable fla alternative could be a big draw.

[witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

People thought it was a dumb idea to build another racetrack in Dallas though.

It is.

[Kasept]

Years later and Brunetti ends up getting the job done and Minor is ruined..

Amazing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...G4U_story.html

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Years later and Brunetti ends up getting the job done and Minor is ruined..

Amazing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...G4U_story.html

Sure talked a good game, though, didn't he? I have a few crates of Halsey Minor Snake Oil that I'd like to unload if you're interested...

There's still the matter of quarter horse races vs TB dates right? Will Calder and Gulfstream ever let up on Hialeah's ability to get those? They don't seem to be interested in working anything out. Of course, sometimes it feels like asking to see racetracks working together is a bit like asking to see a unicorn. Will the Flamingo Stakes ever be back on our 2yo radar?

[richard]

A great article that must leave us all now knowing how Hialejah and even Pimlico would have been devastated.