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Merlinsky 02-09-2009 08:53 PM

Hialeah in the courts: Go Get 'Em Halsey
 
http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/49149.htm

This should be fun. I'm not familiar with the property laws in Florida and the deed between Brunetti and the City of Hialeah but I'd imagine Halsey knows plenty about his chances. Anybody familiar with the situation and think it's got enough merit for us to be hopeful? Or are we watching a valiant effort doomed to fail? I can't help but root for them. I also can't help but loathe Brunetti's behavior, so whatever it turns out he's legally entitled to, I know he's not been thinking about what's best for the track or sport. His own pocket, sure...er..kudos, Mr. B? Nah.

Danzig 02-09-2009 09:32 PM

i saw the story. hoping for the best for the track, i'd love to see it up and running again.
i miss the flamingo stakes!

Merlinsky 02-09-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i saw the story. hoping for the best for the track, i'd love to see it up and running again.
i miss the flamingo stakes!

Are you like me, remembering the stories from the Black Stallion series as part of the romance of Hialeah? I know the images and film are nostalgic, and I remember seeing it several years ago on tv but I often read it as settings for stories in my childhood, and whenever I hear people talk about what Hialeah was like in person, it seems to be all that Walter Farley described and more. The colors of the actual flamingos and the green foliage with the horses and silks. Just spectacular.

Kasept 02-10-2009 05:34 AM

Halsey Minor may be insane.

Danzig 02-10-2009 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Are you like me, remembering the stories from the Black Stallion series as part of the romance of Hialeah? I know the images and film are nostalgic, and I remember seeing it several years ago on tv but I often read it as settings for stories in my childhood, and whenever I hear people talk about what Hialeah was like in person, it seems to be all that Walter Farley described and more. The colors of the actual flamingos and the green foliage with the horses and silks. Just spectacular.

probably. i don't know how many times i read his books when i was younger, and it hasn't been that long since i re-read a couple of them. i need to hit ebay and get the rest....

i just think out of all the tracks that have had money pumped into them, hialeah deserved it the most. gulfstream hasn't been right since they re-worked the track configuration-most of all, i found it dammed depressing when i saw the pics of hiealeah recently, and saw all the grass growing on the main track.

joeydb 02-10-2009 07:04 AM

Go Halsey! Resurrect Hialeah!

Cannon Shell 02-10-2009 07:04 AM

This seems like a real longshot though if he makes Brunetti spend money to defend himself it is worth it.

Bigsmc 02-10-2009 07:14 AM

^^^I agree. Make Brunetti dig into his pockets and spend some money.

I would love to see Hialeah up and running again, but I will not hold my breath.

Danzig 02-10-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
^^^I agree. Make Brunetti dig into his pockets and spend some money.

I would love to see Hialeah up and running again, but I will not hold my breath.

i wonder if there is a really legitimate shot here to get her going again...

Cannon Shell 02-10-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i wonder if there is a really legitimate shot here to get her going again...

If Brunetti croaks

sumitas 02-10-2009 12:33 PM

I hope this suit has some legs . I think it may .

art vanderlay 02-10-2009 04:55 PM

http://maps.live.com/#JnE9eXAuaGlhbG...E1NjY0NjcyODU=



It looks like the place could use some work;)

Danzig 02-10-2009 05:20 PM

i don't know that a lawsuit is the answer. we have so many these days! i want to see that track return to its glory days, but i'm not so sure this is the means to that end.

King Glorious 02-10-2009 05:24 PM

With the sport in it's current state, you all really want to see Hialeah return? Do we really need to spend millions for another track that's going to draw 1000 people a day? Racing is dying not growing.

Danzig 02-10-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
With the sport in it's current state, you all really want to see Hialeah return? Do we really need to spend millions for another track that's going to draw 1000 people a day? Racing is dying not growing.

i think i heard over a billion dollars in handle last year. yeah, it's definitely on life support.

King Glorious 02-10-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i think i heard over a billion dollars in handle last year. yeah, it's definitely on life support.

Use the number in context. If I make $1 million in salary this year, I've had a great year. But if I made $2 million the year before, it wasn't so great. Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

Travis Stone 02-10-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

Everything is down in gaming... racing, casinos, cards, slots... all down. Using those numbers to prove racing is dying is baseless.

Danzig 02-10-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Use the number in context. If I make $1 million in salary this year, I've had a great year. But if I made $2 million the year before, it wasn't so great. Handle was down this year significantly from the year before.

speaking of numbers in context... you said attendance is down, your reason to say that the sport is 'dying'. but that would be like saying only 80k watched the super bowl this year, since that's all that was in attendence. it certainly doesn't tell the whole story.
and the handle may be down-how much of that is due to almost constant disputes over wagering and signals. i heard on steves show the other day that january is down; coincidentally, january was when vegas lost some signals, wasn't it?

King Glorious 02-10-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Everything is down in gaming... racing, casinos, cards, slots... all down. Using those numbers to prove racing is dying is baseless.

This is true. So does that change the point?

King Glorious 02-10-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
speaking of numbers in context... you said attendance is down, your reason to say that the sport is 'dying'. but that would be like saying only 80k watched the super bowl this year, since that's all that was in attendence. it certainly doesn't tell the whole story.
and the handle may be down-how much of that is due to almost constant disputes over wagering and signals. i heard on steves show the other day that january is down; coincidentally, january was when vegas lost some signals, wasn't it?

As Travis straightened me out, all gambling is down. Most everything is down in our country. That doesn't scream out to me that now is the time to invest millions into building up a racetrack. But it's not my money. People thought it was a dumb idea to build another racetrack in Dallas though.


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