100-0 basketball game -- wrong or not?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

Again, I ask where do you see anywhere that it says he was pressing them with that lead? If he was, I'd totally agree that it was classless. But I haven't read that. I haven't read anything about how the game was played and whether he was trying to score as much as possible or whether he was trying to pull back. Until I find out he was trying to score and embarrass the other team, I don't think it's fair to make judgements about how much class he has.

We see things like this in college football often. It would happen in the old Big-8 all the time with Oklahoma and Nebraska doing this to their outclassed competition. What do you do? You take out all of your starters and start playing your fourth and fifth string. You stop throwing any passes. You run the ball on every play. But what can you do when the opposing team can't tackle you? How fair is it to tell fourth and fifth stringers that bust their butts in practice all year that when they finally get their chance to get on the field, they can't even play. You want them to take the handoff and fall down so they can stop from scoring? Sometimes, there's only so much you can do with a talent disparity like that.

[TheSpyder]

I think the other coach should be fired. Having a team that scores 0 points? The guys not a coach. Even if they were way under skilled, he should have gone to the othe coach and sad something like, look my kids are retards, do easy. I wonder what he did say and do.

The winning coach was over the top. But would be still be fired at 76-0?, 59-0?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I think the other coach should be fired. Having a team that scores 0 points? The guys not a coach. Even if they were way under skilled, he should have gone to the othe coach and sad something like, look my kids are retards, do easy. I wonder what he did say and do.

The winning coach was over the top. But would be still be fired at 76-0?, 59-0?

this is ridiculous. The other coach is coaching kids with disabilities. The Dallas Academy is a school for kids with learning disabilities, etc.

As far as the bolded, the winning coach should have been wise enough to figure that out.

I cant believe some of the posts on here. this is HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS for gosh sakes. Kings example to football was insane.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

My wife just told me the kids on the losing team, were either special needs or
learning disabled on some level.

Not joking here.

EXACTLY... this is the whole point of the firing and everything.

Open your eyes people. That coach is a scumbag.

[King Glorious]

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

If I was the coach.. I would have tried to get a mercy rule to end that game after half.

I would make my kids run suicides in the morning til the fainted if they took a 3 pointer or an easy layup in the 2nd half. I'd make them complete 20 successful bounce passes before they would be allowed to shoot.

This isnt the pro's or college. Its about teenage girls playing against a group of teenage girls with disabilities. Its about being a good person & thinking about others feelings.

I think all the responsibility lies on the coach. ESPECIALLY after he wrote a letter to the paper saying he wasnt sorry for anything (after the school had issued an apology). Good riddence.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

There are huge disparities in this state among private schools. This team probably had very few teams that it could play, the leagues are just not that big.
Example: Dallas Bishop Lynch, also a private parochial school, routinely recruits college caliber players for its girls team. They have won the state title in TAAPS 19 out of the past 20 years. They kill the same Catholic school located in San Antonio in the title game every other year it seems. This team also recruits. The interesting thing is the public schools are usually better.

So I guess it was probably a very difficult situation.

BTW. They showed this team practicing after this destruction on the hardwood. My daughter's high school team would have slaughtered this 100-0winner. My daughter's team finished 3rd to last (9 teams) in their 5A (largest schools usually 2800 kids and up) division. So my question is what the heck was wrong with that other team? Was it a school for the blind or some school for kids that are disabled...? I have not found anything out about this...

OOps. Just read it was a special needs team.
That explains it.
Good Christ... forget the above.

[Danzig]

when i went to school, our football team was an absolute laughing stock. we lost double digits to nothing who knows how many times. it's not fun, but we found humor in it. especially if we ever found a way to get any points on the board-we considered that a victory in itself. now, i'm competitive as hell. to lose to a better player, i can handle that. i think it would tick me off a lot more if i lost and knew the other team was sandbagging. now, that probably doesn't apply in this instance... the big question would be why schedule such disparate teams? the second question would be why is there no mercy rule, or why didn't they just forfeit before the second half? also, from what i read a few days ago, the crowd was behind the team scoring-i think they wanted their team to get to triple digits. and then the coach gets fired for doing what the parents and fans seemingly wanted? perhaps more than the coach should get some attention from the powers that be there.

don't they have divisions for sports? we go from 6-a to 1-a in arkansas, surely they can find a better fit for that team?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The coach is going to ( if he hasn't already ) lawyer up and get $omething out of the school for getting fired.
No doubt about that.

If someone can sue a school after acting like he did.. well this country is a damn shame.

But considering SUE HAPPY AMERICA, it wouldnt surprise me.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I don't want to see it happen, but what rule did he break while doing his job ?
If that can't be answered, he's getting something.

High School sports are not just about winning and losing. I think he broke lots of morality codes and integrity codes.

And considering that the school fired him (not because of the game) but because he wrote a letter to the newspaper saying he wasnt sorry about anything... after the school had tried to forfeit and gave apologies.

He wont win a darn thing in my opinion.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

High School sports are not just about winning and losing. I think he broke lots of morality codes and integrity codes.

And considering that the school fired him (not because of the game) but because he wrote a letter to the newspaper saying he wasnt sorry about anything... after the school had tried to forfeit and gave apologies.

He wont win a darn thing in my opinion.

Ok, like with Timm, I'm not reading the same things you are. The article does not say that he was fired because of the letter he wrote. It says it's unclear if it's because of the score of the game or because he says he's not sorry. Either way, I don't see where they have any just cause for firing him. As a basketball coach, he could win 200-0 if he so feels like it and he can't be fired for it. And if he knows the he was really trying to keep the score down and that it could have been worse had he wanted it to be, he has no reason to apologize for his behavior as he did nothing wrong. It also doesn't say the school tried to forfeit the game at all. If anyone should be fired, it should be the coach of the other team for scheduling his disadvantaged girls against an opponent that was capable of beating them that bad. Whether the beating was 100-0, 50-0, 75-6......this was a game that shouldn't have been scheduled in the first place.

I don't know if any of you remember the story of that kid in NY (I think it was NY) last year that had the developmental problems and the coach finally put him in during the last game of his last season? That might not be exactly accurate but it was something like that. This kid was finally put into a game and ended up scoring something like 20 points in the last five minutes of the game. Should his coach have told him, after finally putting him in a game, to just hold the ball and not shoot? Don't try to score or do anything to embarrass the other team? Is that what this coach should have done? Told his team to not play any defense and just let the other team score and then when we have the ball, don't do anything at all. Just inbound it and stand there. Don't shoot because there's no shot clock so we don't have to. Maybe to be a little bit nicer to them, throw a bad pass or two so they can steal it and then let them score. What do you do?

[Antitrust32]

King, read this article. This is where I am getting my statements from. You will totally change your opinion. Also, it was the Dallas Academy team that only had 8 players.

http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool...ory?id=3852460


edit: also I told you what I would do if I was the coach in Post 26

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I only saw the two articles highlighted in this thread.

Where did I miss the part about Coach Grimes writing a letter to a newspaper ?

you didnt miss it... it wasnt brought up in the thread before I mentioned it.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article...30/1007/SPORTS

here ya go.