100-0 basketball game -- wrong or not?

King Glorious · #1 01-27-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The parents of the Dallas Academy girls have the task of reassuring their kids
"you can achieve anything you set your mind on" accept aspiring to be
a starter for the Volunteers of Tennessee.

OK. All joking aside.

Any decent coach wouldn't have done what this guy did. Also......

Did anyone question why the losing coach just left his girls out there as long as he did ?

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

timmgirvan · #2 01-27-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

King Glorious · #3 01-27-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

timmgirvan · #4 01-27-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

King Glorious · #5 01-27-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

Again, I ask where do you see anywhere that it says he was pressing them with that lead? If he was, I'd totally agree that it was classless. But I haven't read that. I haven't read anything about how the game was played and whether he was trying to score as much as possible or whether he was trying to pull back. Until I find out he was trying to score and embarrass the other team, I don't think it's fair to make judgements about how much class he has.

We see things like this in college football often. It would happen in the old Big-8 all the time with Oklahoma and Nebraska doing this to their outclassed competition. What do you do? You take out all of your starters and start playing your fourth and fifth string. You stop throwing any passes. You run the ball on every play. But what can you do when the opposing team can't tackle you? How fair is it to tell fourth and fifth stringers that bust their butts in practice all year that when they finally get their chance to get on the field, they can't even play. You want them to take the handoff and fall down so they can stop from scoring? Sometimes, there's only so much you can do with a talent disparity like that.

TheSpyder · #6 01-27-2009, 03:11 PM

I think the other coach should be fired. Having a team that scores 0 points? The guys not a coach. Even if they were way under skilled, he should have gone to the othe coach and sad something like, look my kids are retards, do easy. I wonder what he did say and do.

The winning coach was over the top. But would be still be fired at 76-0?, 59-0?

Antitrust32 · #7 01-27-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I think the other coach should be fired. Having a team that scores 0 points? The guys not a coach. Even if they were way under skilled, he should have gone to the othe coach and sad something like, look my kids are retards, do easy. I wonder what he did say and do.

The winning coach was over the top. But would be still be fired at 76-0?, 59-0?

this is ridiculous. The other coach is coaching kids with disabilities. The Dallas Academy is a school for kids with learning disabilities, etc.

As far as the bolded, the winning coach should have been wise enough to figure that out.

I cant believe some of the posts on here. this is HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS for gosh sakes. Kings example to football was insane.

Antitrust32 · #8 01-27-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411

My wife just told me the kids on the losing team, were either special needs or
learning disabled on some level.

Not joking here.

EXACTLY... this is the whole point of the firing and everything.

Open your eyes people. That coach is a scumbag.

King Glorious · #9 01-27-2009, 03:41 PM

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

Antitrust32 · #10 01-27-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

If I was the coach.. I would have tried to get a mercy rule to end that game after half.

I would make my kids run suicides in the morning til the fainted if they took a 3 pointer or an easy layup in the 2nd half. I'd make them complete 20 successful bounce passes before they would be allowed to shoot.

This isnt the pro's or college. Its about teenage girls playing against a group of teenage girls with disabilities. Its about being a good person & thinking about others feelings.

I think all the responsibility lies on the coach. ESPECIALLY after he wrote a letter to the paper saying he wasnt sorry for anything (after the school had issued an apology). Good riddence.

#11 01-27-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

There are huge disparities in this state among private schools. This team probably had very few teams that it could play, the leagues are just not that big.
Example: Dallas Bishop Lynch, also a private parochial school, routinely recruits college caliber players for its girls team. They have won the state title in TAAPS 19 out of the past 20 years. They kill the same Catholic school located in San Antonio in the title game every other year it seems. This team also recruits. The interesting thing is the public schools are usually better.

So I guess it was probably a very difficult situation.

BTW. They showed this team practicing after this destruction on the hardwood. My daughter's high school team would have slaughtered this 100-0winner. My daughter's team finished 3rd to last (9 teams) in their 5A (largest schools usually 2800 kids and up) division. So my question is what the heck was wrong with that other team? Was it a school for the blind or some school for kids that are disabled...? I have not found anything out about this...

OOps. Just read it was a special needs team.
That explains it.
Good Christ... forget the above.

Antitrust32 · #12 01-27-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The coach is going to ( if he hasn't already ) lawyer up and get $omething out of the school for getting fired.
No doubt about that.

If someone can sue a school after acting like he did.. well this country is a damn shame.

But considering SUE HAPPY AMERICA, it wouldnt surprise me.

Antitrust32 · #13 01-27-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I don't want to see it happen, but what rule did he break while doing his job ?
If that can't be answered, he's getting something.

High School sports are not just about winning and losing. I think he broke lots of morality codes and integrity codes.

And considering that the school fired him (not because of the game) but because he wrote a letter to the newspaper saying he wasnt sorry about anything... after the school had tried to forfeit and gave apologies.

He wont win a darn thing in my opinion.