100-0 basketball game -- wrong or not?

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

In my opinion, the problem is in the scheduling. It had to have been obvious before the game that there was a huge disparity in talent between the two teams so they shouldn't have even been matched up in the first place. If they matchup looked a little more even going in and certain circumstances (injuries, suspensions, etc) conspired to make it a mismatch, perhaps the best alternatives would have been to either call a forfeit before the game or concede at halftime. But you can't totally blame the coach of the winning team without knowing the way the game played out. As was noted, he only had eight players so at least two starters had to be on the court all game. Also, I'd like to know how all of their other games have gone this season. Do they play a bunch of tight games all year where he doesn't get a chance to use his bench much? How much do his reserves get to play and show what they can do? They probably work hard all year in practice and it's not fair to tell them they now get to play but all they can do is hold the ball and pass it around. Do you tell them not to take any open shots or to try to miss on purpose? Do you tell them not to play defense and to let the other team get some points? All of these things are even more unsportsmanlike in my opinion. Of course you don't want to be playing a pressing defense or looking to score on fast breaks at every opportunity. But you've also still got to play the game. Was this a game that could have been 50-0 and they kept pushing to make it 100-0 or was it a game that could have been 200-0 and they worked hard to keep it only 100-0?

all excellent points! sounds like the game should never have been played. to me it's more insulting to the bad team to have YOUR team clown around, then it is to crush them.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

all excellent points! sounds like the game should never have been played. to me it's more insulting to the bad team to have YOUR team clown around, then it is to crush them.

thats is just totally incorrect in this case. The team that lost is a school for kids with learning disabilities. What the winning coach did was just wrong.


As for King's points about maybe 100-0 was taking it easy on them is complete BS. Its high school, they play short quarters. This team was shooting 3's and running the full court press after they were already up 59-0 at halftime.

It was a disgrace to high school athletics.

[Antitrust32]

nobody should be taking the winning coach's side in this matter.

If he wasnt in the wrong, this wouldnt be a national story and the coach would still have his job.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

thats is just totally incorrect in this case. The team that lost is a school for kids with learning disabilities. What the winning coach did was just wrong.


As for King's points about maybe 100-0 was taking it easy on them is complete BS. Its high school, they play short quarters. This team was shooting 3's and running the full court press after they were already up 59-0 at halftime.

It was a disgrace to high school athletics.

then the 2 teams had NO business playing each other!

shooting 3's was better than lay-up drill. 3's lowers the shooting percentage.

i don't know what kind of high school you went to but the league we play in was as cut-throat as it got. 8 teams in the league and 5 teams would make the playoffs at 2 different classes in 2 states. we only lost 10 games in 4 years and 2 of those losses were the state semi's.

from what i've read there are differing accounts of the game, to call it a disgrace.

[MaTH716]

It just seems that there are many guilty parties here.

1. The head coach of the losing team. For having them in a division or a leauge that they are not capable of competing in (I could be wrong here, I'm not sure of their record but just attempting 7 shots all game tell me they have no one to dribble the ball).

2. Leauge director or commish. For either letting the team play in the division. Not briefing other teams coaches about the nature of the team with the special needs. Maybe adapt some sort of mercy rules so game like this don't get out of hand again.

3. Obviously the other teams coach, for not calling the dogs off. At some point just have your guys stand in a stationary position andlet them score a few points.

4. Referees: when it's starting to get out of hand, call some fouls (even if they are phantom) to keep the other team from pressing. Also to get the other team to the line and maybe get a few points on the board.

It's easy just to blame the coach (he is the biggest culprit), but there are other people here that let these kids down too.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I see nothing wrong with it.

In fact, now that I'm in Florida, I stopped by a senior citizen village yesterday and totally ABUSED a couple old bags at some hoops.

I guess I might have been called for a charge or six if a ref was present with some of my power moves.

I still got it - threw down a nice one hand dunk in the face of some old lady I thought I recognized from an old Colonial Penn Insurance commerical.

[Danzig]

did you see wilford brimley or robert wagner?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I see nothing wrong with it.

In fact, now that I'm in Florida, I stopped by a senior citizen village yesterday and totally ABUSED a couple old bags at some hoops.

I guess I might have been called for a charge or six if a ref was present with some of my power moves.

I still got it - threw down a nice one hand dunk in the face of some old lady I thought I recognized from an old Colonial Penn Insurance commerical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCru-0-mIC4

[timmgirvan]

unfortunately, they don't have a "mercy rule" in basketball.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The parents of the Dallas Academy girls have the task of reassuring their kids
"you can achieve anything you set your mind on" accept aspiring to be
a starter for the Volunteers of Tennessee.

OK. All joking aside.

Any decent coach wouldn't have done what this guy did. Also......

Did anyone question why the losing coach just left his girls out there as long as he did ?

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

And what exactly did this guy do? I read the article and I don't know how the game went. Unless you know what it was that he did, you don't know what he didn't try to do. As I asked, was it a game that could have been only 50-0 and he instead pushed to make it 100-0 or it was a game that could have been 200-0 and he did all he could to keep it at "only" 100-0?

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

If he had a serious lead and still had a fullcourt press, then I think he did something wrong?

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The article said there were varying reports of the game and that one of them said they were only in a full court press for THREE minutes. Where do you get information saying otherwise?

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

from this thread.....all things considered.....with a 59 pt. lead?...no a good decision by the coach!

Again, I ask where do you see anywhere that it says he was pressing them with that lead? If he was, I'd totally agree that it was classless. But I haven't read that. I haven't read anything about how the game was played and whether he was trying to score as much as possible or whether he was trying to pull back. Until I find out he was trying to score and embarrass the other team, I don't think it's fair to make judgements about how much class he has.

We see things like this in college football often. It would happen in the old Big-8 all the time with Oklahoma and Nebraska doing this to their outclassed competition. What do you do? You take out all of your starters and start playing your fourth and fifth string. You stop throwing any passes. You run the ball on every play. But what can you do when the opposing team can't tackle you? How fair is it to tell fourth and fifth stringers that bust their butts in practice all year that when they finally get their chance to get on the field, they can't even play. You want them to take the handoff and fall down so they can stop from scoring? Sometimes, there's only so much you can do with a talent disparity like that.

[TheSpyder]

I think the other coach should be fired. Having a team that scores 0 points? The guys not a coach. Even if they were way under skilled, he should have gone to the othe coach and sad something like, look my kids are retards, do easy. I wonder what he did say and do.

The winning coach was over the top. But would be still be fired at 76-0?, 59-0?

[King Glorious]

Ok, so the score is 59-0 at halftime. First of all, that's bad enough. Why was this game even scheduled in the first place is my question? Second, I would wonder if either coach went to the other and said "hey, let's call this off." Now, once the game went into the second half, all of you that are against the winning coach, how would you have handled it? Do you put in your three bench players and tell them to just stand there and hold the ball at halfcourt? Since there is no shot clock, technically, he can just have his players stand there and just hold the ball for the whole quarter. Is that what you would have had your players do?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

The coach is going to ( if he hasn't already ) lawyer up and get $omething out of the school for getting fired.
No doubt about that.

If someone can sue a school after acting like he did.. well this country is a damn shame.

But considering SUE HAPPY AMERICA, it wouldnt surprise me.