Steelers TD 2 Feet Down?

ddthetide · #1 12-15-2008, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

I am a Giants Fan who is struggling now but we have beat both of these teams.

That ball never got close to being a TD. Stop being a homer and admit you got a break.

The Steelers probably would have won, but they clearly didn't score a TD there, and what is even worse is the guys on the field said they didn't score and the guy overturned it with no real evidence.

The ref is going to get a slap on the wrist for screwing up, but he did screw up. The Ravens got screwed and that is part of the NFL.

The fact that he even referred to the guys feet makes me wonder if he even knew what the hell he was talking about. The feet don't matter at all. He was in the middle of the field, it wasn't like his feet were going to come down out of bounds.

This belief that if your feet are in the endzone but the ball isn't still makes it a TD is 100% incorrect. The ball has to hit the line, and clearly the ball never hit the line.

The real travesty is how often the NFL refs are screwing these games up. Earlier in the game they gave the Steelers a first down when the guy was about a full yard short of the 30. They reviewed it and he still screwed it up.

The NFL has an interest in seeing teams like the Steelers go far. They can say they don't but they do. Refs don't intentionally screw teams, but when the Cowboys, Giants, Steelers and a few others are involved these refs have a tendency to side with them. Same goes in the NBA with the star teams.

Just be happy the Steelers won, but admit they got a break.

the play at mid-field was a complete joke! that in no way was first down. in the end it was no harm.

the ball touched the goal-line but i didn't say Holmes had postion of it. should it have been overturned, probably not.

ddthetide · #2 12-15-2008, 06:40 AM

it's the first i'd seen this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,129009

by this it's not a TD. the key word is "postion" or "control"........ i still think the ball broke the plane just before this and Holmes would not have had "postion" or "control".

Cannon Shell · #3 12-15-2008, 09:40 AM

It was insanely close but i thought it was a TD though it was certainly not indisputable.

ddthetide · #4 12-15-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was insanely close but i thought it was a TD though it was certainly not indisputable.

espn radio this morning, is saying that replay made the right call BUT it wasn't indisputable. i do agree it wasn't indisputable.

Quiet Chris · #5 12-15-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

espn radio this morning, is saying that replay made the right call BUT it wasn't indisputable. i do agree it wasn't indisputable.

That is good because ESPN radio knows everything.

There is no way of knowing if that ball got in or not. Anyone that says they know for a fact that ball got in is a liar.

The real issue though is that the call on the field was no touchdown and the referee could not have possible saw something that made him think otherwise while reviewing the tape.

The ref screwed up. He should just admit it and move on.

Cannon Shell · #6 12-15-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

That is good because ESPN radio knows everything.

There is no way of knowing if that ball got in or not. Anyone that says they know for a fact that ball got in is a liar.

The real issue though is that the call on the field was no touchdown and the referee could not have possible saw something that made him think otherwise while reviewing the tape.

The ref screwed up. He should just admit it and move on.

I thought the replayed showed the ball crossing the line. I doubt I am lying about that. maybe my eyesight isnt 20/20 but it looked to me as though the end of the ball crossed the plane of the goal when he caught it. To say there is no way of knowing doesnt exactly support your position of it wasnt over either. It is still very hard to tell even after watching it. I dont really care either way though and if the ref thought it was over then he surely doesnt think he should apologixze.

Antitrust32 · #7 12-15-2008, 01:22 PM

the officiating in the NFL has been horrific. I didnt see this play.. but if you go by how every other call has been made the officials probably screwed up again.

Quiet Chris · #8 12-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I thought the replayed showed the ball crossing the line. I doubt I am lying about that. maybe my eyesight isnt 20/20 but it looked to me as though the end of the ball crossed the plane of the goal when he caught it. To say there is no way of knowing doesnt exactly support your position of it wasnt over either. It is still very hard to tell even after watching it. I dont really care either way though and if the ref thought it was over then he surely doesnt think he should apologixze.

You made my point. The replay judge is only supposed to overturn the call on the filed if they are 100% certain based on the replay. Nobody could say with 100% certainty whether he got in or not.

The right call was to stick with the call on the field. If the guy on the field said it was a TD then that should have been the call they went with.

Replay is only to overturn calls that are indisputable. The NFL replay ref screwed up.