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Old 12-10-2008, 11:26 AM
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Cannon: player development doesn't stroke the Ego like signing a star player does!
It does when you call up an Evan Longoria or David Price. but it takes work and brains along with good scouting and player evaluation.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:30 AM
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It does when you call up an Evan Longoria or David Price. but it takes work and brains along with good scouting and player evaluation.
You forgot the key word: Patience.

They had some of the best scouts money can buy. The problem is their moves suck away the draft picks and their impatience doesnt allow for the good ones to develop.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:31 AM
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You forgot the key word: Patience.

They had some of the best scouts money can buy. The problem is their moves suck away the draft picks and their impatience doesnt allow for the good ones to develop.
Good point.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:36 AM
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Yanks act like they are run by TURKS.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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Yanks act like they are run by TURKS.
Hey Villanova has a Turk who actually plays
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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Hey Villanova has a Turk who actually plays
Turkey Glue got 24 last night. Turkey Bankshot in the house. Brothers were mobbing him, but I don't know why. Maybe they were almost all in the 4th quarter.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:48 AM
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Turkey Glue got 24 last night. Turkey Bankshot in the house. Brothers were mobbing him, but I don't know why. Maybe they were almost all in the 4th quarter.
maybe some dead sheep inspired the performance
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:49 AM
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Excuse me. I have to listen to a song a TURK was supposed to be half thru with, but says he is done with.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:34 AM
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You forgot the key word: Patience.

They had some of the best scouts money can buy. The problem is their moves suck away the draft picks and their impatience doesnt allow for the good ones to develop.
Yeah, a guy like Hughes is still going to be a very good pitcher but who really believes the Yankees will be patient enough to wait for it to happen.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:40 AM
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It does when you call up an Evan Longoria or David Price. but it takes work and brains along with good scouting and player evaluation.
or a Cole Hamels, Chase Utley or a Ryan Howard...
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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What a surprise CC took the truck load after squeezing every last bit of patience on everyones part. At least he won't be batting against the Red Sox......wait a minute there is no rule that says he can't. I don't think I have ever seen it but you could sit a weak hitting catcher and let the pitcher hit couldn't you if he had a decent stick ala Rick Ankeel
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:51 AM
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What a surprise CC took the truck load after squeezing every last bit of patience on everyones part. At least he won't be batting against the Red Sox......wait a minute there is no rule that says he can't. I don't think I have ever seen it but you could sit a weak hitting catcher and let the pitcher hit couldn't you if he had a decent stick ala Rick Ankeel
or Melky Cabrera
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:12 PM
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It does when you call up an Evan Longoria or David Price. but it takes work and brains along with good scouting and player evaluation.
too long-term for this management
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:15 PM
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CC Sabathia?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/fernaal01.shtml
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:40 PM
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this coming from a Yankees fan:

Fat CC will wilt under the summer heat and humidity at 292 lbs

The friggin audacity of these bastards to ask the NYC taxpayers for another $450,000,000 for their new stadium and they offer this fat slob of an athlete $160,000,000...makes no sense.

And they wonder why long time season ticket holders like myself canceled our seats!
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:44 PM
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whats the total payroll for the under achievers?
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:02 PM
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whats the total payroll for the under achievers?
Around $160 million but they are nowhere near done yet.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:29 PM
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Around $160 million but they are nowhere near done yet.
The best part is that IMO there are no other star types except for Teixeria left. The Yankees need a CF and there are no viable FA's out there. They need a RF and there arent any of those that arent flawed in one way or another. They still need more starting pitching and Burnett and Sheets are the 2 best but are injury risks. Lowe is a good pitcher but I wouldnt tie up a lot of money in him. The bullpen still lacks depth, Cano, Jeter, Posada and whoever plays CF is the majors worst up the middle defense. Swisher at 1st is coming off his worst season. Posada is still a question mark physically. Playing Molina more than occasionally is like playing a game where you only get 24 outs. Matsui has a bad knee. And hank expects them to win the WS. They are the third best team in their own division and if Boston signs tex the gap gets wider.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:24 PM
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this coming from a Yankees fan:

Fat CC will wilt under the summer heat and humidity at 292 lbs
you don't want to see him lose weight... Cle tried this when he first came up with them. he lost about 25 lbs... and almost 10mph off his fastball. Next spring, his weight was back up, and so was his fastball speed.
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:04 PM
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this coming from a Yankees fan:

Fat CC will wilt under the summer heat and humidity at 292 lbs

The friggin audacity of these bastards to ask the NYC taxpayers for another $450,000,000 for their new stadium and they offer this fat slob of an athlete $160,000,000...makes no sense.

And they wonder why long time season ticket holders like myself canceled our seats!
Fat Wells pitched forever. And pretty well. He's fat but a good athlete. It makes perfect sense. Sabathia was the best pitcher on the market and they could outspend everyone for him. Pretty simple. So CC hasn't been pitching in heat and humidity at 290 his whole career?? It's a bad signing like all signings for this amount. We'll know soon enough just how bad it was. I can't imagine they'll get 7 years like he's pitched his last 3 obviously...my feeling is he'll be gone in 3 years regardless. HE clearly didn't want to go there, but the mafia nature of the Yankees made it impossible for him not to sign there...the old "offer he can't refuse." He wouldn't sign without the opt out clause at the 3 year mark. $160 mill and he still wants a chance to get out...I think that speaks as to how much he really didn't want to go there.
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