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Old 12-05-2008, 02:14 PM
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screw him! He's another guy who had the world by the balls and F'ed it up. He gets away with murder and still finds another away to get in trouble. Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life.

Have no pity for someone who can brutally murder his ex-wife and an innocent bystander while his children are sleeping upstairs.

Hope he stays in for at least ten years. Tho I dont know how much abuse he will take... a man like OJ has to be able to hold his own in a fight. And we already know he has no problem stabbing people.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:29 PM
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Tho I dont know how much abuse he will take... a man like OJ has to be able to hold his own in a fight. And we already know he has no problem stabbing people.
I have to think he will be in protective custody, in seclusion from other inmates. At least at the beginning. Which is good, because that is by far a worse place to be. 23 hours by himself, then one hour for recreation.

I read somewhere that he has been in Protective Custody since his incarceration and that his co-defendant was in PC and asked to be put back in regular population because he couldn't take the solidarity.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:59 PM
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15yrs = 5 actual...At least he got something...
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:16 PM
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15yrs = 5 actual...At least he got something...

Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:40 PM
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If you hold the same litmus test for saying he was not guiltly of murder because of the results of the muder trial to the results of this trial, why can you not accept the decision?

The judge clearly stated before sentencing that the verdict and sentence was based solely on the results of this trial. He was guilty of like 10 different things. It's not my fault he screwed up.

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Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...
I actually agree with this....

If the jury in that murder case proclaimed he was innocent, then that should have no influence on this case. But I believe it did influence the jury....

Yes he probably did it but...it sets a dangerous example by where people that are actually innocent will never be fully cleared of their name.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:55 PM
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The innocent verdict in the criminal murder trial was as racist as it gets.

He was found guilty of murder during the civil case if anyone remembers that.

Goldman & Nichole's DNA were in OJ's car... it was an outrageous verdict.

Now this dumbass is found guilty of KIDNAPPING, armed robbery basically, using force to kidnap.. etc.

The sentence had everything to do with the current CONVICTIONS. If people feel it also helps vindicate that OJ is a MURDERER than AWESOME!

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:18 PM
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The innocent verdict in the criminal murder trial was as racist as it gets.

He was found guilty of murder during the civil case if anyone remembers that.

Goldman & Nichole's DNA were in OJ's car... it was an outrageous verdict.

Now this dumbass is found guilty of KIDNAPPING, armed robbery basically, using force to kidnap.. etc.

The sentence had everything to do with the current CONVICTIONS. If people feel it also helps vindicate that OJ is a MURDERER than AWESOME!


I agree he's a pathetic person, but I question the sentence based on the details of the event as reported....perhaps the judge had info that we do not, I don't know but it seems pretty steep....again, all I'm saying is that the sentence SHOULD reflect this case only...I can't see inside the judge's mind but I think the concern is valid enough to express.
Of course I remember the results of the civil case, but in Civil Court, the standard of proof is a lot lower, he wasn't found "guilty" he was held "responsible"...we don't use civil decisions against a person's criminal record!
How do you know the decision was racist? As I said, I would have voted not guilty and last time I checked, I was white....let me look again.........yep, still white. How can one vote to convict with a clear conscience when an admittedly racist cop handled key evidence, the same cop who admitted planting evidence in the past on black defendants because they were involved with a white woman, and bragged that he would do it again? When several other investigating officers shared his views, when key evidence was carried around in an officer's trunk instead of being turned into the evidence locker thus violating chain-of-custody regs, when the time line never quite fit, when Simpson's medical condition raised questions concerning his physical ability to commit such a violent act(s), and yes...when the damn glove didn't fit!!! (i know all about the science there but the glove didn't fit in front of the jury and the inept prosecutors had no answer). Simpson had the dream team and Darden and what's her name had no answers to much of the science...I mean hell, Simpson had F. Lee Bailey third chair!!! Bottom line...the case as presented fell well short of "beyond a reasonable doubt". I watched the circus every day, right or wrong, the jury had little choice...to call it racist is over-simplistic at best!
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I actually agree with this....

If the jury in that murder case proclaimed he was innocent, then that should have no influence on this case. But I believe it did influence the jury....

Yes he probably did it but...it sets a dangerous example by where people that are actually innocent will never be fully cleared of their name.
so robbing someone at gunpoint isnt a big deal?
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:01 PM
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so robbing someone at gunpoint isnt a big deal?
Well it is. I don't know the laws for holding someone up at gunpoint, I didn't realize it was that many years. Eh you're probably right I don't know what I'm saying.

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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so robbing someone at gunpoint isnt a big deal?
Stop trying to produce common sense. Anyone can walk around with a gun, tout it around and show people, point it at people, threaten people, but if the trigger aint pulled, then there is no crime.

Matter of fact, on my Friday night, I am about to go get my grandpa's rifle and sit on the corner and point it at cars driving by, see if I just can't get myself in a little trouble.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:03 PM
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Why am I posting this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
Had I been on that jury I would have voted likewise...Mark Furhman (sp?) made it impossible to convict him.
Is he an idiot? His actions since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...
Our legal system don't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
He should have been sentenced solely on the merits of this conviction...
Was he?
Even if he is guilty of murder...he didn't get away with anything...he simply avoided man's law...I believe there is a higher justice.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
I find no joy in this....I find the man pathetic, yes...distasteful, but I don't get the vulturistic joy of some...
fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....
Your statement regarding "the latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence".... is also opinion that seems to be stated a bit more like "fact"


anyhoo....perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:09 PM
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SomerTossed is a rambling fool---there is no reasoning with this pontificating cretin.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:11 PM
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fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....

perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.
Dave,
Sorry if I implied that the judge DID use the sentencing to "get even", I think I stated several times in different posts that i surely don't KNOW that for a fact, merely that it was a concern that it may have happened. Also, to reiterate, it appears very likely that the sentence will be appealed so that will determine a lot imo...if the sentence is upheld then end of story. Regarding concepts of "justice"...if I address that issue then I'll be accused of preaching again, I guess a short comment would be ...it depends upon one's belief regarding dominion of "justice"
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I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

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Why am I responding to this? I must be a complete idiot but...what the hell!
Did OJ kill his wife and her friend?
Everybody has an opinion but the jury found him not guilty,
even though the evidence was overwhelming, he was found guilty in a civil trial, has made no restitution as per the civil suit and later co-authored a book talking about "If" he had done it.
Had I been on that jury I would have voted guilty...
Is he an idiot? His actions before, during and since the crime scream "YES"
But...if we incarcerated folks for being idiots....Then there would be no one posting here.
This latest crime is hardly worth a long sentence...but, since he's such a scumbag, who cares?
Our legal system doesn't state that it's ok to "get even" or balance the scales...
But, since he essentially got away with the brutal murdering of 2 people, who cares? What goes around comes around.
So now he can add thief to his growing resume of why he's a piece of s.hit.
I believe there is no higher justice. He literally got away with murder once. He's paying a little restitution back now.
I also believe that it is better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent man...isn't that a cornerstone of our system?
However, nothing about Simpson is innocent and he's getting a small slice of what he should be getting.
I find a lot of joy in this....I find the man pathetic and distasteful, but I don't get how someone could defend Simpson. At some point it's best to step off the soapbox and just let scumbags get what is coming to them, instead of making it about some "cause" no one cares about.
Who cares? I do, you don't...pretty much end of discussion...the old soapbox reference again, but you're standing on one also..."no one cares"...perhaps in your world, in mine a lot of folks do....so, I'm fine with my world, I'm sure you are fine with your's. One point though, I'm not defending Simpson...I find him as pathetic as you do, but the Constitution gives equal rights to all of us...even someone like Simpson.
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Why am I preaching and you using "common sense"? I believe one way and you another...it's not preaching to express in a semi-articulate (I hope) manner what I think...any more than it is for you to state your's. I do understand the uneasyness that some folks feel about OJ walking the streets, as a parent, I feel uneasy about child molesters living among us...the system will never be perfect. It's hardly about me anymore than your opinions are about you. I don't say that you don't have the right to express your opinions and try to demean them by saying they are all about you...yet folks want to make mine "all about me"...believe me when I say at the very heart of my belief system is the core belief that we are all equal...so why would I need to feel superior?????
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