11/28 (AQU): Demoiselle/Remsen (Gr. II); Hill 'n' Dale Cigar (Gr. I)

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Thanks - anything on Wanderin Boy

Was it Wanderin Boy or Visionaire that got hurt? Andy, any info is appreciated.

On a side note, pmac and I are live to the 3,5,8 in the pk4, we need this one!

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by pointman

Was it Wanderin Boy or Visionaire that got hurt? Andy, any info is appreciated.

On a side note, pmac and I are live to the 3,5,8 in the pk4, we need this one!

It was Wanderin Boy and I was told he was put down. The Filly seems like she can be saved. Very sad.

[sumitas]

It is sad . Wanderin Boy's sire, Seeking The Gold, from the same family as Reviewer, sire of Ruffian, has a very bad reputation for producing unsound horses . Thankfully he has finally been retired .

[my miss storm cat]

I missed the race, just got home and came here first. No idea who won yet.

I really hope you're wrong, Handicappy. Respectfully...

Prayers are with Wanderin Boy and his connections.

I just hope you're wrong.

What he deserved was this win and not to have it end this way. Poor guy.

edit _ Jesus, no mention...
http://news.bloodhorse.com//viewstory.asp?id=48243

edit - Damn.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/100256.html

[Riot]

Hoss, I think we (the sport) just need to publically show a little common humanity about bad crap when it happens.

Most stuff on the track isn't catastrophic, the horses and jocks are cared for and get off the track alive and under their own power. The public should know this.

No drama. The announcer simply needs to acknowledge what happened; say they are being attended to, the horse is being taken off the track in the ambulance, the jock is walking off, etc.

Leaving the TV public's last view of something potentially "awful" - a horse being pulled up, or even worse going down - to hang there with zero subsequent comment, like it didn't even happen, is appallingly disrespectful in my view.

I know most certainly do care alot more about Wandering Boy and Springside than our pick 4 payout (edit: Point, that was not directed at you!, it was a general comment)

[sumitas]

Riot is spot on . Report what was happening instead of silence and cutting the tv shots away from the accidents .

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Riot is spot on . Report what was happening instead of silence and cutting the tv shots away from the accidents .

Anybody else want to join the newest clique?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Riot is spot on . Report what was happening instead of silence and cutting the tv shots away from the accidents .

Yeah Sumitas you are spot on as well when you talk about how unsound a pedigree Wanderin Boy has, when he is running in a G1 at the end of his 7yo campaign.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Riot is spot on . Report what was happening instead of silence and cutting the tv shots away from the accidents .

so you would rather they kept the camera on the horse, perhaps while it's suffering, and blathered on about myriad ways a horse can break down? yes, everyone wants to know about the horse-mainly if it's ok-but how often do we complain about a rush to say something, only to have 'news' reports turn out wrong?

it doesn't matter really what they do, you can't please everyone obviously-so there'll always be complaints from someone. so, personally i'd rather they be cautious, respectful, and tell us what they can when they can. everyone watching knows what it means when a jock pulls a horse up, he's in distress for some reason. i'd imagine they'll tell you when they can, no one is trying to keep state secrets or anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Riot is spot on . Report what was happening instead of silence and cutting the tv shots away from the accidents .

Riot said nothing of that sort. You want to see TV shots of downed horses, I don't. That definitely should not be shown.

Like most of us I watch alot of different track feeds. Some do a good job of mentioning what happens if there's an accident during a race, some don't.

NYRA did a terrible job yesterday, completely ignoring what happened in big stakes races - twice - and not even mentioning it. IMO, not good enough by lengths.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by sumitas

It is sad . Wanderin Boy's sire, Seeking The Gold, from the same family as Reviewer, sire of Ruffian, has a very bad reputation for producing unsound horses . Thankfully he has finally been retired .

a 7 year old who showed up for 5 years in stakes.. What a an unsound piece of shieat..Sumi you are priceless

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by freddymo

a 7 year old who showed up for 5 years in stakes.. What a an unsound piece of shieat..Sumi you are priceless

You are a horse salesman . I don't expect you to know anything or admit anything about unsoundness . Refer to post # 41 .

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sumitas

You are a horse salesman . I don't expect you to know anything or admit anything about unsoundness . Refer to post # 41 .

Your record remains intact. You are never right about anything.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by freddymo

a 7 year old who showed up for 5 years in stakes.. What a an unsound piece of shieat..Sumi you are priceless

He's also a 7yo that's had 25 career races. That doesn't scream soundness.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

It was Wanderin Boy and I was told he was put down. The Filly seems like she can be saved. Very sad.

I am really sorry to hear that, that is a real shame regarding Wanderin Boy. Any word on whether JV is ok?

[Linny]

Originally Posted by pointman

I am really sorry to hear that, that is a real shame regarding Wanderin Boy. Any word on whether JV is ok?

JV hopped off, the horse didn't go down. Shame really. Of course this was a horse that had survived 3 fractures in the past.

[King Glorious]

In general, I do not like horses these days that win at 9f so early in their careers. They receive so much hype early in their 3yo seasons and more often than not, don't come close to justifying it. The way this horse won the Remsen did not impress me at all. I don't see him as having much of a future in most races but wouldn't count him out of the Belmont picture provided he stays healthy. He just doesn't seem to have much speed and speed is vital in today's game. There just won't be many chances to get around in 24, 49, 1:14 at the stakes level.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

In general, I do not like horses these days that win at 9f so early in their careers. They receive so much hype early in their 3yo seasons and more often than not, don't come close to justifying it. The way this horse won the Remsen did not impress me at all. I don't see him as having much of a future in most races but wouldn't count him out of the Belmont picture provided he stays healthy. He just doesn't seem to have much speed and speed is vital in today's game. There just won't be many chances to get around in 24, 49, 1:14 at the stakes level.

I'm not buying the hype either. I am, however, happy to hype Quality Road. That horse is the real deal.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not buying the hype either. I am, however, happy to hype Quality Road. That horse is the real deal.

FINALLY, you and Stevie Belmont at Pace Ad are in agreement.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

In general, I do not like horses these days that win at 9f so early in their careers. They receive so much hype early in their 3yo seasons and more often than not, don't come close to justifying it. The way this horse won the Remsen did not impress me at all. I don't see him as having much of a future in most races but wouldn't count him out of the Belmont picture provided he stays healthy. He just doesn't seem to have much speed and speed is vital in today's game. There just won't be many chances to get around in 24, 49, 1:14 at the stakes level.

I disagree completely with you on this one. The pace was slow, but he didn't just plod around at the end- when asked, he ran the final 3F in :36 flat. Compare that to the girls who went :39 over the same final 3F. He has shown ability to rate and relax. Soundness is my biggest concern, given that he's by Unbridled's Song, otherwise I see nothing that would dissuade me from saying he's my top Derby selection at this point.