11/28 (AQU): Demoiselle/Remsen (Gr. II); Hill 'n' Dale Cigar (Gr. I)

[Mike]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Mike, please don't bet Storm Play. He may be the least likely winner on the entire card.

Well, I'm glad you didn't say Storm Play had no shot at all, as I pre-bet early before reading Derby Trail

By the way, Andy, everytime you've told me to throw out a horse you've been right(I've been around under a different name on the web); you're due to be wrong just once

Got my Pick 3 wrapped up with Storm Play as a single, also

[blackthroatedwind]

My horse in the 5th was Smarteralex......he may have gotten one of the most comedically bad rides in history.

[Riot]

This really, really ticks me off about the sport - the blatent pretending and ignoring that something happened to Springside after the wire (I'm watching the track feed at home)

How about at least a little, "splinted and taken off in the ambulance"? If she's being euthanized on track, how about "being attended to on track" or at least some other euphanism?

Completely ignoring it happened - especially in a stakes race - doesn't cut it in this day and age.

Anybody there know what happened to her?

Andy - you guys should have said something prior to the next race.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Riot

This really, really ticks me off about the sport - the blatent pretending and ignoring that something happened to Springside after the wire (I'm watching the track feed at home)

How about at least a little, "splinted and taken off in the ambulance"? If she's being euthanized on track, how about "being attended to on track" or at least some other euphanism?

Completely ignoring it happened - especially in a stakes race - doesn't cut it in this day and age.

Anybody there know what happened to her?

Andy - you guys should have said something prior to the next race.

I also was listening for an update....but have heard nothing so far

[Riot]

Didn't look catastrophic, fortunately - but a little acknowledgement and show of concern would go far to making the public think that this sport gives a damn about the horses' welfare.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I completely understand your point, but isn't it at least possible that Andy, etc don't know what the situation is exactly? Isn't it better to say nothing, rather than something that is incorrect?

I was going to say the same thing but didn't want to get involved.

How does Andy have anything to do with this, and he is smart enough not to say anything about it, anyone watching the live feed saw what happened......This aint General Hospital

[blackthroatedwind]

She has an injury to her right front pastern and they are taking X-rays.

[Riot]

Thank you VERY much, Andy.

It's obviously not the house handicapping show's place to be the first to make such announcements, but hey, we just ran a great stakes race where the overwhelming fav was defeated, and the victor is hurt. Let's not pretend it didn't happen.

It's the track announcers place to inform the public, obviously. "To update on the outcome of the sixth race, the winner Springside went lame after the wire, Gomez jumped off her, she's being attended to ... "

Obviously nobody needs to speculate on outcome, nor does an owner need a mic shoved in their face. Just say briefly, after the horse is off the track, what happened and what's happening now to care for the horse.

The public face of failing to acknowledge that it even happened, to ignore there isn't a trophy presentation, is ridiculous and insulting to the horse and the connections.

NYRA gets a failing grade today in PR and concern for the horse on that one.

Edit: And Barclay Tagg finally gets a break!

[mclem0822]

Thanks for the P3, and best of luck with the P4!
That was a great race, have my fingers crossed for Wanderin Boy.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I completely understand your point, but isn't it at least possible that Andy, etc don't know what the situation is exactly? Isn't it better to say nothing, rather than something that is incorrect?

Yes, that is why we waited until we had more information.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, that is why we waited until we had more information.

When you have more info on the one in the Cigar Mile, let us know. That one didn't look good.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, that is why we waited until we had more information.

Thanks - anything on Wanderin Boy

[Scav]

If there is a mass murderer in the Florida area, I probably know who it is......

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Thanks - anything on Wanderin Boy

Was it Wanderin Boy or Visionaire that got hurt? Andy, any info is appreciated.

On a side note, pmac and I are live to the 3,5,8 in the pk4, we need this one!

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by pointman

Was it Wanderin Boy or Visionaire that got hurt? Andy, any info is appreciated.

On a side note, pmac and I are live to the 3,5,8 in the pk4, we need this one!

It was Wanderin Boy and I was told he was put down. The Filly seems like she can be saved. Very sad.

[blackthroatedwind]

You are entitled to your opinions but you are seriously misguided. Information can only be given that is entirely accurate and we were not able to do that. Yes, we could have given the information about the filly, but not until after the Mile, and it seemed inappropriate to do so without any news on Wanderin Boy at that time. We agonized over the decision but felt we made the correct one.

We do the very best job we can relaying information. This information comes through the press office....as I'm guessing it does at every racetrack.

[outofthebox]

And it's not like you guys are Dr. Larry Bramlage who is in direct contact with the state vets at the time on injury. Even then the vets at the scene are only assuming the nature of the injury. Untill xrays are taken and evaluated should there be an announcement by on air broadcasters.

[slewfantoo]

I understand why announcers can't give any information at all about the status of a horse, but why can't they report on what we are all seeing on TV? I was watching the race on HRTV, and you could see during the running of the race that something had happened to Wanderin Boy and that he didn't finish, and then when they showed the replay you could see that the jock had jumped off of him. Why couldn't Jon or Millie acknowledge what was just shown on their broadcast?

[Riot]

BTW - Oh, please. Nobody is asking for unconfirmed details or speculation. Re-read what I wrote.

The last we saw and heard about the filly was (if one was still watching) the camera following her past the line and seeing the jock start to pull her up, and she looked like she was limping. Then the camera cuts out.

She just won a stakes race. What is happening?

Nothing. Silence. Then the order of finish, posting of payoffs, on to the next race, who do you like, baby?

That's ridiculous.

Absolutely Durkin should have come on immediately and said something simple like, "The winner of the race, Springside, was pulled up by Gomez after the wire, she is being loaded into the ambulance and Gomez appears fine. There will be no official winners circle presentation"

Everybody saw in the stretch run of the Mile that Wandering Boy was being pulled up and he was moving badly. What followed?

Nothing. Silence.

Yes, after that race Durkin should have immediately come on and after reading the order of finish, should have mentioned that Wandering Boy had been pulled up in the stretch run and is being attended to on track by the track vet (if that was the case. Or loaded into the ambulance, etc. And if the jock walked off or not)

Nobody has to give lots of details or speculate on the nature or prognosis of the injury. Leave that to the later press to ferret out.

At least acknowledge what we all just saw a glimpse of, and instead of leaving the audience wondering what the hell just happened and worrying about it, give us a hint of what is happening now, instead of being silent and pretending it didn't just happen.