9/13 (MTH): $500k Monmouth S.

eajinabi · #1 09-11-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Unless the poly race they put him in is the Goodwood, maybe they are thinking that racing on junk somewhere else won't be an indicator of how he'd do at SA. Sort of like why would a prep at Arlington tell someone how their horse will like Saratoga?

If they think that then its stupid. What is running on Turf going to give him unless they go for BC Turf. If they are eyeing the Classic then go for a poly type surface. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.

King Glorious · #2 09-11-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

If they think that then its stupid. What is running on Turf going to give him unless they go for BC Turf. If they are eyeing the Classic then go for a poly type surface. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.

That's the point. No surface is going to prepare him for exactly what he's going to run on in the Classic. So, with the issues he has with his feet, they are looking for an easier surface to run on than dirt. Where have you heard that Turfway and SA are similar? As far as I know, they've never run a single race on this stuff so how can anyone know this?

#3 09-11-2008, 10:08 PM

I will be wagering on Silver Tree in here... Win/PLace, just because i think Brown could run out of the top 3 here.

Pedigree Ann · #4 09-12-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.

Turfway has a Polytrack surface tuned for its winter meet so that it will not freeze. Santa Anita has a new Pro-Ride track about which we know nothing yet. How can you say they are similar? Are you medium who can foretell the future?

Danzig · #5 09-12-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Turfway has a Polytrack surface tuned for its winter meet so that it will not freeze. Santa Anita has a new Pro-Ride track about which we know nothing yet. How can you say they are similar? Are you medium who can foretell the future?

i think he's more medium rare...

Slewbopper · #6 09-12-2008, 04:14 PM

ML...Brown 2/1, Shakis 7/2, Proudinsky 4/1, Silver Tree 6/1

RollerDoc · #7 09-12-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper

ML...Brown 2/1, Shakis 7/2, Proudinsky 4/1, Silver Tree 6/1

Big Brown keyed on top of a trifecta should pay very nicely.

Danzig · #8 09-12-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Big Brown keyed on top of a trifecta should pay very nicely.

RollerDoc · #9 09-12-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

Breaking News........Based on Yahoo searches today, for some strange reason, Ike is now considered the more popular of the longtime candy duo Mike and Ike.

Handicappy · #10 09-12-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Big Brown keyed on top of a trifecta should pay very nicely.

If he wins. It is not a sure thing at all. And I would be very surprised if he wins. No offense to the horse or anything. Just too much to overcome for a horse that has not been at his best since May.

PSH · #11 09-12-2008, 08:16 PM

Proudinsky 4-1 ML
Win and Place

RollerDoc · #12 09-12-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Here's another thing you will learn, the ML is a joke most of the time. Don't count on 2-1, closer to 1-2.

Based on the sentiments of this Board (all the Big Brown naysayers), that is shocking. Why is Big Brown even the favorite, let alone a possible 1-2?

slotdirt · #13 09-12-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Based on the sentiments of this Board (all the Big Brown naysayers), that is shocking. Why is Big Brown even the favorite, let alone a possible 1-2?

People are dumb.

letswastemoney · #14 09-12-2008, 04:47 PM

Big Brown will be the favorite because not everyone can be as smart as the people on this board. The casual public will always bet down the famous horse.

RollerDoc · #15 09-12-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be missing what I am saying. I could care less about this race. I'm just letting you know that to trust the ML as some sort of evidence to what he will be come post time is foolish IMO. And again, it's not that it's Big brown naysayers, it's people that have a realistic view as to his place in the game. But, since you mention it, considering he has accomplished less on the turf than the entire field, he's a horrible favorite. I understand why he is the favorite, but he should not be.

I appreciate the part about the morning line. I'm curious. It sounds like you think he probably won't win. So do many others tomorrow. If he wins tomorrow and the BCC, does he deserve a higher level of respect fom the horseracing world in terms of how good he is?