9/13 (MTH): $500k Monmouth S.
 

9th (4:52) Monmouth S.

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Nightscape Flores E 119 L
2 Hotstufanthensome Lezcano J 119 L
3 Shakis (IRE) Bravo J 121 L
4 Big Brown Desormeaux K J 120 L
5 Kiss the Kid Trujillo E 119 L
6 Proudinsky (GER) Dominguez R 119 L
7 Drum Major Carmouche K 119 L
8 Get Serious Fragoso P 119 L
9 Fagedaboudit Sal Cotto P L Jr 121 L
10 Ballonenostrikes Centeno D E 119 L
11 Silver Tree Castro E 121 L

Hes Got His Hands Full..

Shakis!!

Is this a new race? Never even heard of it.

If BB wins this race he is for real. I think he'll win :eek:

I agree, winning the Florida Derby, Kentucky Derby, Preakness Stakes, and the Haskell wasnt enough. The Monmouth Stakes is the true test of champions.

Thats not what I meant. Shakis and Proudinsky are going to the the two best horses he's run against after this race. It will able us to measure him up better.

I think his accomplishments are amazing.. thats why I'm picking him to win eventhough I wouldnt back that up with a dime.


Oh- and yes it is a new race, Monmouth created it specifically for Big Brown. I've seen Shakis run twice at Toga... he looked amazing both times! This should be a good race. I feel BB could be better on the grass than off (kinda like dutrow).

What are the odds that this race will actually be run on the TURF? If it is OTT who will stay in other than BB?

I like Silver Tree to win it.

Can't wait for Silver Tree's old ass to dust Pig Brown.

What are the odds Big Brown will be scratched because it is unlikely he can handle horses of this caliber. if they thought they were going to get a field full of goats to roll over for him they are mistaken. Finally, he has a field of legitimate stakes caliber opponents. Reality is going to be brutal.

I'm curious about the weights. The condition book says "older 124 lbs, 3yo's 120 lbs." Is the old scale of weights that the Jockey Club used to have still in use? I know that when they run the BC, in the Classic and Turf, 3yo's get a five pound allowance from older horses when the BC is run in October and four pounds when it's in November. They are only getting four pounds here?

Nevermind. Just found the scale and it says at 8f, 3yo's get four pounds in September and at 10f, they get five. So it seems that four is just about right.

Why instead of running on Turf, why not put him in a race run on Poly to see if he runs good/bad on it. Why till the Classic to find out?

Why ruin a great built-in excuse?

Unless the poly race they put him in is the Goodwood, maybe they are thinking that racing on junk somewhere else won't be an indicator of how he'd do at SA. Sort of like why would a prep at Arlington tell someone how their horse will like Saratoga?

Proudinsky :tro:

He has issues. . .

Am I correct, seriously, that IEAH is the sponsor of this race as well?

If they think that then its stupid. What is running on Turf going to give him unless they go for BC Turf. If they are eyeing the Classic then go for a poly type surface. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.

Yup.. From the MTH website press release on the draw...

OCEANPORT, N.J. - Big Brown, winner of four Grade 1 races this year including the Haskell Invitational and undisputed leader of the 3-year-old division, drew Post 4 Thursday as a field of 11 was entered for Saturday's inaugural running of the $500,000 Monmouth Stakes Presented by IEAH Stables.