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Old 09-11-2008, 08:50 PM
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Why instead of running on Turf, why not put him in a race run on Poly to see if he runs good/bad on it. Why till the Classic to find out?
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:55 PM
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Why ruin a great built-in excuse?
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:55 PM
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Why instead of running on Turf, why not put him in a race run on Poly to see if he runs good/bad on it. Why till the Classic to find out?
Unless the poly race they put him in is the Goodwood, maybe they are thinking that racing on junk somewhere else won't be an indicator of how he'd do at SA. Sort of like why would a prep at Arlington tell someone how their horse will like Saratoga?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:12 PM
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:15 PM
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He has issues. . .
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:21 PM
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Am I correct, seriously, that IEAH is the sponsor of this race as well?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:38 PM
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Am I correct, seriously, that IEAH is the sponsor of this race as well?
Yup.. From the MTH website press release on the draw...

OCEANPORT, N.J. - Big Brown, winner of four Grade 1 races this year including the Haskell Invitational and undisputed leader of the 3-year-old division, drew Post 4 Thursday as a field of 11 was entered for Saturday's inaugural running of the $500,000 Monmouth Stakes Presented by IEAH Stables.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:39 PM
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Any odds yet?

Is this race being televised?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:32 PM
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Unless the poly race they put him in is the Goodwood, maybe they are thinking that racing on junk somewhere else won't be an indicator of how he'd do at SA. Sort of like why would a prep at Arlington tell someone how their horse will like Saratoga?
If they think that then its stupid. What is running on Turf going to give him unless they go for BC Turf. If they are eyeing the Classic then go for a poly type surface. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:59 PM
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If they think that then its stupid. What is running on Turf going to give him unless they go for BC Turf. If they are eyeing the Classic then go for a poly type surface. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.
That's the point. No surface is going to prepare him for exactly what he's going to run on in the Classic. So, with the issues he has with his feet, they are looking for an easier surface to run on than dirt. Where have you heard that Turfway and SA are similar? As far as I know, they've never run a single race on this stuff so how can anyone know this?
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:08 PM
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I will be wagering on Silver Tree in here... Win/PLace, just because i think Brown could run out of the top 3 here.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:39 PM
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. Run him at turfway for Kentucky Cup. Turfway and SA are simmilar type surface as far as polytrack is concerned.
Turfway has a Polytrack surface tuned for its winter meet so that it will not freeze. Santa Anita has a new Pro-Ride track about which we know nothing yet. How can you say they are similar? Are you medium who can foretell the future?
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Turfway has a Polytrack surface tuned for its winter meet so that it will not freeze. Santa Anita has a new Pro-Ride track about which we know nothing yet. How can you say they are similar? Are you medium who can foretell the future?
i think he's more medium rare...
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:14 PM
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ML...Brown 2/1, Shakis 7/2, Proudinsky 4/1, Silver Tree 6/1
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:17 PM
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ML...Brown 2/1, Shakis 7/2, Proudinsky 4/1, Silver Tree 6/1
Big Brown keyed on top of a trifecta should pay very nicely.
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