Larry Jones gets first drug positive ever

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

That being said, if my memory is correct, I recall reading a story that about 2/3 of the horses that Autrey brought out to Del Mar last were claimed away from him, so against this backdrop, there's probably not that much risk in taking this horse given the purse structure there.

I don't think Autrey had a very good meet last year at Del Mar. A lot of those horses claimed from Autrey stepped up for the other barns. One of those, Dearest Tricski, who was taken for 12 or 16k, ended up a Grade 1 winner. In addition, Autrey got two medication positives during the meet (which I don't recall the final rulings for).

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by ELA

My first reaction wasn't sabotage, but it's the melodrama that you have to expect. It is what it is.

Anyway, Did you get a look at that horse? How many were in on him? I didn't see the races or watch the replays yet, but I was puzzled by the horse Cody took.

Eric

Id say just the Ramseys were the only ones, just a guess. Not alot of action at the $50k claiming box at CD.
The horse Cody took from Brothers is interesting, Brothers ran him at KEE with no public works showing in the form. Which I thought was illegal, however the horse snuck off at 36-1 and just missed to a horse that has already come back and won again.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Honestly i dont think it was ever as pure as it is made out to be. Betting coups were probably a lot more fun in the age of bookmakers.

Hackercraft aint done yet!

lol

i didn't mean tomorrow!

and yeah, they should have a graduated scale. but multiple offenses shouldn't still just get a week or two off-and then the horses stay in the barn while the trainers' off on 'vacation'.
maybe fines based on percentages of money won-there's got to be real punishment, else where is the incentive to do things by the book?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Actually, Intercontinental's victory in the Palomar at Del Mar was upheld by the stewards. Furthermore, her lasix injection was 20 minutes late, still well over 3 hours from post time (in CA it must be given no later than 4 hours out). Some states, including Delaware, allow lasix administration up to 3 hours prior to post.

really? last i saw, they ruled against intercontinental-maybe i missed an appeal or something.

and late is late, no excuses. i think the bigger offense was the vet lying, not the late injection.

just looked it up--they said the horse should have been scratched, but decided she didn't get an edge over her competition due to the late injection. order of finish stayed the same, but the vet was fined $750.

[PeteMugg]

If someone gets caught cheating, then it is what it is. But how sad that someone question a guy because he reached the upper tier after such a humble start. Thought that's what made this country great.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by PeteMugg

If someone gets caught cheating, then it is what it is. But how sad that someone question a guy because he reached the upper tier after such a humble start. Thought that's what made this country great.

It is just that he was a trainer so long in KY and never even did that well at CD or KEE. He relocates to Delaware and he simply cant lose. I understand that he has much better horses now but I cant ever remember an example of a trainer that trained at a lower level track with modest success that rose so quickly to after so long. Hey, he has a damn clean record but it is as hard to understand his rapid ascension as it was to comprehend that Brady Andeson once hit 50 HR's in a year.

[PeteMugg]

Come on, Chuck, with these short fences and pitching what it is today, I'd think you could knock out 45 taters in a season.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by PeteMugg

Come on, Chuck, with these short fences and pitching what it is today, I'd think you could knock out 45 taters in a season.

Tater tots maybe

[Danzig]

just saw this bit from larry jones in an article linked on equidaily:


"The reason we've felt we're running so good is other horses are coming off steroids," Jones said. "This winning is going to stop, because as soon as their horses start compensating, they're going to come back strong. But we're hitting them right now where their horses are on a down period."

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is just that he was a trainer so long in KY and never even did that well at CD or KEE. He relocates to Delaware and he simply cant lose. I understand that he has much better horses now but I cant ever remember an example of a trainer that trained at a lower level track with modest success that rose so quickly to after so long. Hey, he has a damn clean record but it is as hard to understand his rapid ascension as it was to comprehend that Brady Andeson once hit 50 HR's in a year.

We have one of Brady's HR bats from that season in my sons room...talk about guilt without conviction. The guy won't even say he hit 50 anymore