NYRA Race Replays and Live Video

the_fat_man · #1 06-20-2008, 11:27 AM

Not only that; you can't even get live audio on the NYRA site any longer.

So, before we can even begin to bitch about the QUALITY of the NYRA replays (SIGNFICANTLY WORSE than LAST YEAR) we need to actually be able to access them.

Only in racing do they HIDE their DATA. It's precious; bet your money but we'll go out of our way to make sure you can't obtain basic information.

Linny · #2 06-20-2008, 11:31 AM

This is a regulatory issue, along with the takeout hike.

Strategic Mission · #3 06-20-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Not only that; you can't even get live audio on the NYRA site any longer.

So, before we can even begin to bitch about the QUALITY of the NYRA replays (SIGNFICANTLY WORSE than LAST YEAR) we need to actually be able to access them.

Only in racing do they HIDE their DATA. It's precious; bet your money but we'll go out of our way to make sure you can't obtain basic information.

I am sure it isn't NYRA but the racing board, but how can you have racing without making replays available? You can get all of them through calracing.com but why should I have to go to calracing to get new york replays?

hockey2315 · #4 06-20-2008, 11:58 AM

Calracing's replays are pretty good. . . Just stick with those. . .

the_fat_man · #5 06-20-2008, 12:05 PM

I don't know what I'd do if not for calracing.

Probably, I wouldn't be playing.

Too bad they don't get all tracks.

And, too bad racereplays.com doesn't quite get it with their use of realplayer and only panshot replays.

I'd pay for full, clear replays. I'd also pay for ACCURATE data.

I'm sure others would as well.

Only in racing would something that's in demand not be made available.

So you not only need to try to beat a ridiculously difficult game; you also need to do it with less than optimum resources.

NoLuvForPletch · #6 06-20-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't know what I'd do if not for calracing.

Probably, I wouldn't be playing.

Too bad they don't get all tracks.

And, too bad racereplays.com doesn't quite get it with their use of realplayer and only panshot replays.

I'd pay for full, clear replays. I'd also pay for ACCURATE data.

I'm sure others would as well.

Only in racing would something that's in demand not be made available.

So you not only need to try to beat a ridiculously difficult game; you also need to do it with less than optimum resources.

Actually Racereplays.com now has both Windows Media and Real Player, plus Head-Ons available.

the_fat_man · #7 06-20-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Actually Racereplays.com now has both Windows Media and Real Player, plus Head-Ons available.

Is that definitive? Are there headons for ALL their tracks or just some? (which is what I was told last time I checked.)

Moreover, MP is probably just as bad as RP, imo.

The streams on the CD/AP/CRC/FG sites are much clearer, as they use FLASH.

Hard to see the leads on MP and RP.

NoLuvForPletch · #8 06-20-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Is that definitive? Are there headons for ALL their tracks or just some? (which is what I was told last time I checked.)

Moreover, MP is probably just as bad as RP, imo.

The streams on the CD/AP/CRC/FG sites are much clearer, as they use FLASH.

Hard to see the leads on MP and RP.

Since they carry like 75 tracks I won't go through every single one to check since you probably don't care about Zia Park. Which one's do you want to know about.

NYRA - Yes, Head ON
Monmouth - Yes
Churchill - Yes
Calder - Yes
Hollywood - Yes
Arlington - Yes
Suffolk - Yes

I'm guessing if the have Suffolk, they have it all. But they don't have an entire library of history. I think the Head-on's are just for the most recent stuff, when they re-vamped the site.

Strategic Mission · #9 06-20-2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Calracing's replays are pretty good. . . Just stick with those. . .

They are fine. You just have to enter the name of the horse instead of pulling a date and race for the track.

#10 06-20-2008, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

They are fine. You just have to enter the name of the horse instead of pulling a date and race for the track.

But then you can watch more than one race of a particular horse of interest easily.

alphanumeric1 · #11 06-20-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

I am sure it isn't NYRA but the racing board, but how can you have racing without making replays available? You can get all of them through calracing.com but why should I have to go to calracing to get new york replays?

"In the NY law OTB has the sole license to present live video of racing outside of the racetrack in NY state. OTB has pressed Albany so that they enforce this law. That is why NYRA or can not show its product(live feed) on the NYRA website or Twinspires can not offer video of New York racing in New York. Now with the latest round of racing legislation OTB has pressed Albany so that NYRA can not even show replays of the product on the NYRA website."
From: http://gregcalabrese.blogspot.com/20...eplays-on.html

NYC OTB are AHoles!

Strategic Mission · #12 06-20-2008, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphanumeric1

"In the NY law OTB has the sole license to present live video of racing outside of the racetrack in NY state. OTB has pressed Albany so that they enforce this law. That is why NYRA or can not show its product(live feed) on the NYRA website or Twinspires can not offer video of New York racing in New York. Now with the latest round of racing legislation OTB has pressed Albany so that NYRA can not even show replays of the product on the NYRA website."
From: http://gregcalabrese.blogspot.com/20...eplays-on.html

NYC OTB are AHoles!

OTB's are dinosaurs. They are doing everything to justify their existence. There is no longer a need for OTB's. They should shut down about 90% of them.

Scav · #13 06-20-2008, 01:10 PM

You can watch NY races on Twinspires, and their replays too....not sure how old that article is

Kasept · #14 06-20-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav

You can watch NY races on Twinspires, and their replays too....not sure how old that article is

Uh.. It's from Wednesday.

Scav · #15 06-20-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept

Uh.. It's from Wednesday.

I watched every race yesterday from Belmont on Twin Spires' website......

hockey2315 · #16 06-20-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

OTB's are dinosaurs. They are doing everything to justify their existence. There is no longer a need for OTB's. They should shut down about 90% of them.

You're way off here. . .

jcs11204 · #17 06-20-2008, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You're way off here. . .

i like otb's.... just to get away for a little while... there are some decent branches around where i live.... couple hourse in otb is good for you.

Cannon Shell · #18 06-20-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphanumeric1

"In the NY law OTB has the sole license to present live video of racing outside of the racetrack in NY state. OTB has pressed Albany so that they enforce this law. That is why NYRA or can not show its product(live feed) on the NYRA website or Twinspires can not offer video of New York racing in New York. Now with the latest round of racing legislation OTB has pressed Albany so that NYRA can not even show replays of the product on the NYRA website."
From: http://gregcalabrese.blogspot.com/20...eplays-on.html

NYC OTB are AHoles!

I would like to try to understand NYCOTB's motivation in not "allowing" replays on the NYRA website. What could be the possible penalty for ignoring this? Could NYRA simply set up a youtube like site to put the replays on? This is just mindless that the state would bother to allow such nonsense or even enforce it. How can you prevent a company from showing its own product after the fact?

pick4 · #19 06-21-2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I would like to try to understand NYCOTB's motivation in not "allowing" replays on the NYRA website. What could be the possible penalty for ignoring this? Could NYRA simply set up a youtube like site to put the replays on? This is just mindless that the state would bother to allow such nonsense or even enforce it. How can you prevent a company from showing its own product after the fact?

The six statewide OTB corporations are filled with political patronage cushy jobs. The way I see it is the people who NY'ers elected look at horse players as total degenerates and they figure if they can't watch or listen to the races online at NYRA's website, they will go to OTB and watch and wager.
This is cynical point of view on my part, but having been a NY'er I though state government is a ONE PARTY system. The Republican Party in NY is a farce. When you elect left of center politicians this is what you get.