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Old 06-07-2008, 08:42 PM
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I think the point he was making was Big Brown's 1/4 crack was not as bad as Touch Gold's and that his connections said it wasn't a problem especially after his good works after the patch. Therefore it cannot be used as an excuse.
What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:44 PM
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media attention now IS negative. That is what I have been saying all along. That the mainstream media covers every event looking for an issue to make into a story. .
Yep - you couldn't be more correct. The negative media will find something to pick apart about every thing.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:45 PM
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Yep - you couldn't be more correct. The negative media will find something to pick apart about every thing.
Maybe we can get Paris Hilton to buy a horse and totally throw them off
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:46 PM
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That would be hot
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:46 PM
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Easy Tom, it will be ok. The guy won the Derby and Preakness, he is doing ok. But part of sports and competition is rooting for the teams and people that you like and rooting against the ones you dont like. Personally I have nothing against Dutrow. I actually feel kind of bad for him (because i know he will second guess himself forever) but some of the other connections (mostly guys that arent in the limelight) talked so much that it is hard not to root against them. And i'm sure that if we had a TC contender that Scavs would be a huge media target but that's the way it goes...
I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:47 PM
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What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.
What would David Hofmans know? Randy Moss said it was worse and that's that!!!!!! He is an expert you know...
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:48 PM
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I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo
Told you about the racing Gods...you got me yesterday and Dutrow got himself today.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:49 PM
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I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo
Cant wait to see the sandals in the turf Club
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:49 PM
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What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.
What's also ironic about the Touch Gold comparison is that despite the Belmont win, later in the '97 season,Touch Gold tailed off badly (just as Big Brown did today), getting beat the length of the stretch at odds-on in the Pegasus (in a 4-horse field) and then virtually easing in the BC Classic behind Skip Away. I don't recall exactly, but I believe the excuse was the development of a quarter crack, possibly a result of the trauma sustained in the Preakness followed by continued training/racing during the summer.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:50 PM
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Maybe we can get Paris Hilton to buy a horse and totally throw them off
Can you send her checkbook my way? I had a guy from NY ask if he could buy a $100 share in my stable the other day..... 8-)
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:51 PM
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What would David Hofmans know? Randy Moss said it was worse and that's that!!!!!! He is an expert you know...
i still like moss' capping, but he's been a bit screwbally lately-the 1/4 crack talk on top of the whip comments a few weeks ago.
i never have cared for the gnome sitting on his high chair next to him tho....
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:52 PM
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Can you send her checkbook my way? I had a guy from NY ask if he could buy a $100 share in my stable the other day..... 8-)
Hell DeeTee is a high rollers outfit compared to that dude
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What's also ironic about the Touch Gold comparison is that despite the Belmont win, later in the '97 season,Touch Gold tailed off badly (just as Big Brown did today), getting beat the length of the stretch at odds-on in the Pegasus (in a 4-horse field) and then virtually easing in the BC Classic behind Skip Away. I don't recall exactly, but I believe the excuse was the development of a quarter crack, possibly a result of the trauma sustained in the Preakness followed by continued training/racing during the summer.
i'm just blown away by da tara today-he's certainly gotten good at the right time. who won the sir barton btw??
no way in a million years most would have seen him winning that today.
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Hell DeeTee is a high rollers outfit compared to that dude
Thanks Chuck.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:54 PM
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i'm just blown away by da tara today-he's certainly gotten good at the right time. who won the sir barton btw??
Jeremy Rose!! (Roman Emperor the horse)
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i still like moss' capping, but he's been a bit screwbally lately-the 1/4 crack talk on top of the whip comments a few weeks ago.
i never have cared for the gnome sitting on his high chair next to him tho....
He is one of the few guys on air that have a clue from a handicapping standpoint but he has been awfully agenda driven lately and more often than not is using myths and misconceptions as the basis for his stances.
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oh yeah, the empire maker colt....i can't believe i keep forgetting some of this years sophomores.
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Hell DeeTee is a high rollers outfit compared to that dude
Well, that's all his Mother said he could spend.... I kid you not.

You advertise on the internet, you draw all kinds..... 8-)
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:57 PM
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He is one of the few guys on air that have a clue from a handicapping standpoint but he has been awfully agenda driven lately and more often than not is using myths and misconceptions as the basis for his stances.
i wonder why. i really do. but then zito did say today that he also would like to see them do away with the whip. that wasn't long after johnnie v won without his-not that it mattered with zaftig anyway, she was much the best in that race.

but i bet cauthen was glad to have one in the belmont a few years back!!
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Well, that's all his Mother said he could spend.... I kid you not.

You advertise on the internet, you draw all kinds..... 8-)
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