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04-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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I agree with Spence that Z Fortune might be a "wiseguy" sheet horse if his "pattern" looks well.
Z Fortune got a bigger sheet number in the Risen Star than Pyro did - because he was one path wider on both turns (2 lengths total) and there was a 6 pound weight spread at 8.5 furlongs (which equals 2.04 lengths total) Thus - Pyro won the race by 2 lengths over Z Fortune - but Z Fortune's sheet figure came back slightly over 2 lengths faster. The problem with that is that Z Fortune was wide behind a slow pace and in the clear - where as Pyro was buried in last behind a crawl of a pace - and the race pretty much became a 2 furlong sprint with Pyro conceding a head start to the rest of the field and having to slice his way though the pack. Z Fortune is a horse who's chances I can't totally bash and trash - I just don't like them though. 
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04-17-2008, 06:08 PM
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04-17-2008, 06:23 PM
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To me, looks like the pace meltdown scenario is about to unfold in which case I think I would take Colonel John, Pyro, Visionaire, and Court Vision, but with so much time between now and the derby, I'll probably change my mind 500 times. It's probably a little too pat though to think that it will be all closer types. Some stalker type will have to be this year's Closing Argument. Might be Smooth Air. Maybe all those long works will payoff for him.
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04-17-2008, 06:31 PM
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My five would be Big Brown, Colonel John, War Pass, Eight Belles, and Court Vision.
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04-17-2008, 07:35 PM
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pyro question from a newby!
Just a simple question from a rather new guy to the sport.
Does anyone think that pyro might have been held up a little on purpose, knowing that he did not need to push at all to make the field of 20 ,and possibly saving his best for may 3rd? I watched his last race and I know this was defintly not the Pyro of several weeks ago. I am fairly new to the game guys and gals so please forgive the newby questions!
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04-17-2008, 07:46 PM
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However, I can't imagine he got anything out of it -- so while Bridgmohan didn't need to have the horse use everything up trying to win, it wouldn't make much sense to hold him back to the point where he's not getting anything out of it anyway. It that were the case, they may as well just have trained him up to the Derby and gotten more out of it. So my humble opinion, is that I highly doubt that was the original plan, but it turned out that the rider didn't carry on with him once it was obvious that he was going nowhere fast.
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04-17-2008, 09:47 PM
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