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Old 04-02-2008, 04:43 AM
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You and your damn 'bull' horses... last year it was Bwana Bull.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:51 AM
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The DRF's explanation page of what the numbers mean is fine, but it doesn't explain how they are derived. Basically, in terms of his distance ratings, Lee Tomlinson places a value on SIRES based on the average winning distances and winning percentage of their get. Each runner in question earns a 'Tommy' distance number that is calculated by adding 100% of the SIRES' score to 50% of the BROODMARE SIRE'S score.

Inherent then in the Tommies is the assumption that the stamina of the runner in question is influenced to a greater extent by the sire as opposed to the broodmare sire. Personally, I disagree with that premise as the breeding maxim of 'speed over stamina' is something I adhere to, and find particularly effective when evaluating Derby prospects.

Remember that originally the Tommies were used to evaluate 'Mudders and Turfers'... The distance evaluator was the last addition to Lee's system and I believe while useful, are the least reliable of his numbers. The broodmare sire profile is highly influential in projecting a young runner's potential to get a distance of ground.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:56 AM
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When I see a wicked sloppy track, I definitely at least consider Tomlinson numbers.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:44 AM
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I refer to them with first turf and any races in the mud.
Question: Why is the Tomlinson number for Big Brown as high as it is
when his breeding suggest(according to Lauren Stich) that
he should want no part of a 1 1/4?
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:57 AM
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I refer to them with first turf and any races in the mud.
Question: Why is the Tomlinson number for Big Brown as high as it is when his breeding suggest(according to Lauren Stich) that he should want no part of a 1 1/4?
A nice boost would come from Nureyev, the broodmare sire... And Boundary himself likely has an average base figure.

Guess? Boundary scores a 180 and Nureyev a 270 for stamina. That's 180 + 135 = 315... bringing up Big Brown to an OK distance score.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:07 AM
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A nice boost would come from Nureyev, the broodmare sire... And Boundary himself likely has an average base figure.

Guess? Boundary scores a 180 and Nureyev a 270 for stamina. That's 180 + 135 = 315... bringing up Big Brown to an OK distance score.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:28 AM
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The number that suprises me is Salute the Sarge.
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