Nice tactics by Indian Blessing's camp

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i do know from years of watching, that teaching a horse to rate is far from an easy task. perhaps they should just understand that this horse has distance limitations due to her running style, and point her accordingly. and after today, maybe they will.

now i totally agree with that...
i think her limit is obviously 1 1/16, if gomez let her go today i am sure she wins for fun.

[ArlJim78]

If gomez opened her up and let her set sail IB would have lost by an even larger margin. He used the tactics everyone seems to like last time and only held on by a diminishing length to Proud Spell who was coming of the bench.
IB does not seem to be able to run routes with a very even speed distribution.
Proud Spell is the better horse period.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Proud Spell is the better horse period.

That's a cowardly way to put it because of how the schedule looks from here out.

The question is not who the better horse is - even though Indian Blessing still owns a 2-to-1 head-to-head record over Proud Spell at the distance - obviously PS is the horse you want going forward.

However, Indian Blessing doesn't lose a match race scenerio to her if ridden correctly.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That's a cowardly way to put it because of how the schedule looks from here out.

The question is not who the better horse is - even though Indian Blessing still owns a 2-to-1 head-to-head record over Proud Spell at the distance - obviously PS is the horse you want going forward.

However, Indian Blessing doesn't lose a match race scenerio to her if ridden correctly.

totally agree, match race between these 2 take gomez off, hell i would love to see cc lopez on her.... proud spell never gets close.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

totally agree,.

OK, I must be missing something.

Time for me to rethink my position.

[jcs11204]

dont re think anything you are correct and so am i.

gomez strangles to many horses, hard spun in the belmont is classic example... look what he went on to do after the belmont... being by danzig if gomez sends him i dont think curlin or the filly rags to riches would have cought him.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

dont re think anything you are correct and so am i.

gomez strangles to many horses, hard spun in the belmont is classic example... look what he went on to do after the belmont... being by danzig if gomez sends him i dont think curlin or the filly rags to riches would have cought him.

Upon further review - I now agree with the tactics used by Indian Blessing's camp today.

If anything - they didn't rate her hard enough.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

dont re think anything you are correct and so am i.

gomez strangles to many horses, hard spun in the belmont is classic example... look what he went on to do after the belmont... being by danzig if gomez sends him i dont think curlin or the filly rags to riches would have cought him.

Maybe if CC Lopez had ridden him he would have won? Being by Danzig, exacly how many 1 1/4 races did Hard Spun win let alone 1 1/2 races?

[sumitas]

I recall Beautiful Pleasure. Chavez aboard would let her open up like a rank 2 year old. The Go For Wand ( I think that race only had 4 runners), BP must have had a 30 length lead only to be collared by Heritage of Gold.

[jcs11204]

whatever you say chuckles. do you mind if i call you that ?

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I recall Beautiful Pleasure. Chavez aboard would let her open up like a rank 2 year old. The Go For Wand ( I think that race only had 4 runners), BP must have had a 30 length lead only to be collared by Heritage of Gold.

And that exacta paid $15. Today's was $8.60.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I recall Beautiful Pleasure. Chavez aboard would let her open up like a rank 2 year old. The Go For Wand ( I think that race only had 4 runners), BP must have had a 30 length lead only to be collared by Heritage of Gold.

It's worth noting that Beautiful Pleasure also used that style to win a BC Distaff, a Beldame, two Personal Ensign's, a Hempstead, and a Shuvee. An Eclipse for champion older mare was in there too. The rewards outweighed the risks.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I recall Beautiful Pleasure. Chavez aboard would let her open up like a rank 2 year old. The Go For Wand ( I think that race only had 4 runners), BP must have had a 30 length lead only to be collared by Heritage of Gold.

But don't forget when Chavez rode her "like a rank 2 year old" to victory in the Personal Ensign (with a 5 length lead), the Beldame (with a 5 length lead), the Breeders' Cup Distaff (with a 3 length lead), the Hempstead (with a 7 length lead and the Personal Ensign again (with a 5 length lead).

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

If gomez opened her up and let her set sail IB would have lost by an even larger margin. He used the tactics everyone seems to like last time and only held on by a diminishing length to Proud Spell who was coming of the bench.
IB does not seem to be able to run routes with a very even speed distribution.
Proud Spell is the better horse period.

why are ppl not going crazy over this ignorant comment ??? the way they do when other ppl post something ignorant ?


proud spell will never accomplish what indian blessing already has in her career.
she is a breeders cup winner and a champion. i love proud spell but i doubt she will ever have the credentials that indian blessing has

[outofthebox]

I was not happy to see her expose herself today. I was hoping she would be undefeated going into the Oaks and would play against her there. Gomez was quite happy with his ride, and infact thought she ran better today than in the Silverbullet Day.