Big Truck

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I guess I fail to see how it was an improvement. I haven't seen any figs from the race, so I suppose it's possible he ran faster than he had previously, but that's not saying a lot. Time will obviously tell, but I don't see him having any kind of impact on the triple crown.

Did you watch his race at GP?

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Mentioned this in the Tampa thread in Selections, but may be something to consider - Z Humor looked absolutely horrible in the Paddock - completely washed out, so much so that I even contemplated leaving him off my late P3 ticket - I saw Stuttes, Tagg and Mott in the paddock, but Assmussen must have had bigger fish to fry that day, or I just didn't see him - I simply can't imagine that if he was here, the horse wouldn't have looked so bad

Rbe...Z Humor is Mott's horse...Asmusssen has Z Fortune for Zayat. Like you said the horse looked horrible, totally washed out in the paddock and post parade. Have to see what happens next time out...he already has the graded earnings from the Delta Jackpot but I really don't see him as much of a contender in the classics.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Rbe...Z Humor is Mott's horse...Asmusssen has Z Fortune for Zayat. Like you said the horse looked horrible, totally washed out in the paddock and post parade. Have to see what happens next time out...he already has the graded earnings from the Delta Jackpot but I really don't see him as much of a contender in the classics.

My bad Thanks

[philcski]

I liked Fierce Wind coming in and like him even more now. The rest... not so much. Smooth Air I'll give a mulligan, didn't really get a chance to run until late.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

My bad Thanks

Too many Z's running around...hope they don't start getting like all the "Warren's so and so's" you see running in California...it's tough to keep up with them all.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Of course. It was actually a faster race than his Remsen, so I'm not sure your point. He still has yet to run a remotely fast race and is light years away from being a threat to War Pass or Pyro.

So his GP race was better than his effort yesterday?

Thank you captain obvious for the update on War Pass
and Pyro. Dont dare go out on a limb. Its dangerous.

Point is these are 3 year olds. It is February. So who do
you see in an upcoming race (besidesthecat) that you are keeping a close
eye on? Because you and I both know at this stage Pyro
and War Pass still have a ways to go to make it to the gate.
If you were so sure about these two you would have put
your money in the round one pool. Good going getting Pyro
in that first pool. What did you get him at?

Originally Posted by philcski

I liked Fierce Wind coming in and like him even more now. The rest... not so much. Smooth Air I'll give a mulligan, didn't really get a chance to run until late.

He seemed to be struggling a bit down the stretch but the other horses around him seemed to lose form and he straightened out. I had a hard time deciphering exactly what was going on. He looks like a horse that gets
out of the gate well enough, and carries enough early speed to get
good position.

[King Glorious]

I think that after War Pass, El Gato Malo, Colonel John, and Pyro, just about anyone else is a contender. Not to win though. But I wouldn't feel confident taking any horse out of the rest and placing them above any others. Not yet. Nothing Big Truck did excited me yesterday. The winner was the most impressive of that field, IMO. Combined with his last two and maybe we've got something. I'm also looking forward to seeing Court Vision again.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I think that after War Pass, El Gato Malo, Colonel John, and Pyro, just about anyone else is a contender. Not to win though. But I wouldn't feel confident taking any horse out of the rest and placing them above any others. Not yet. Nothing Big Truck did excited me yesterday. The winner was the most impressive of that field, IMO. Combined with his last two and maybe we've got something. I'm also looking forward to seeing Court Vision again.

Ok now.
Colonel John and Court Vision.
I did not think that much about Colonel John.
Court Vision I had.

I am looking foward to seeing if El Gato Malo
can keep that pace going longer. If
so, it would be great to see War Pass and this horse
both make it to May. They could obliterate each other.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I like another Tagg colt Elysium Fields. I think he's very good. I think Colonel John has some talent and am interested in seeing how he handles dirt. Thanks for the update on what month it is. With 12 of them they can get confusing. I agree that there is a long way to go, but nothing about yesterdays race impressed me.

I'm not sure either War Pass or Pyro are going to win the Derby, but they are clearly at the top of the class right now. I realize it's obvious, but I don't need to "go out on a limb" on the board. I back my opinion at the windows.

Its just fun to conjecture especially this year.
There is no harm in being wrong while typing.
And no I would not expect you to come on this
site to bet being that Steve has not quite got
that set up with offshore sites.

Another for Colonel John.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Have you seen any of El Gato Malo's races? He comes from off the pace, why would he obliterate War Pass?

Yes He comes from way off the pace when the 1st half goes in 44 in a mile race.

I think he has all kinds of tactical speed. I think he can go out early
and get a nice little spot and then put pressure on when they turn for
home. Possibly setting it up for the real late runners. All supposition.

And yes I have watched all three. I think this is a horse that
might drive like a car. He does what is asked.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Or when they go 48 and 3 in a mile race, like at Golden gate.

Why do anything different in that particular race?
This horse appears to do what is asked.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jms62
I had written off Big Truck as being simply a good New York Bred with limited Open capabilities. He showed me something yesterday.

jms,

Agreed.. Was really thinking that Tagg had just overstated the horse's potential. He carried on last summer about him extensively, (for Tagg anyway), and when he was ordinary in the Remsen and dreadful in the Hutch, it seemed like there just wasn't much there. He's a great horseman though, and if he thought the colt had talent, we probably should have just trusted his judgement. Cost me the VERY generous tri yesterday as I left him out...


Damn.
Now I am all confused again.
All the knowlege had set me
straight. And now this from
other posters like myself who
are rank amatuers.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Quote:
Originally Posted by jms62
I had written off Big Truck as being simply a good New York Bred with limited Open capabilities. He showed me something yesterday.

jms,

Agreed.. Was really thinking that Tagg had just overstated the horse's potential. He carried on last summer about him extensively, (for Tagg anyway), and when he was ordinary in the Remsen and dreadful in the Hutch, it seemed like there just wasn't much there. He's a great horseman though, and if he thought the colt had talent, we probably should have just trusted his judgement. Cost me the VERY generous tri yesterday as I left him out...


Damn.
Now I am all confused again.
All the knowlege had set me
straight. And now this from
other posters like myself who
are rank amatuers.

Just stick by your gut instinct. A lot can happen in the Derby and if this colt makes it into the field, he deserves a look. I liked what I saw yesterday and while some others may disagree about that, that's what makes this sport so much fun.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

There is absolutley no way to know something like that. If those horses had been running a 10f race yesterday, the race would have looked completely different.
I do not think this horse remotely qualifies as a legitimate Kentucky Derby contender. Tagg is about as sharp as they come and I seriously doubt if he is thinking about that race with this horse.

As for the Dollar Bill comparison, that horse hit the board in five G1 stakes over the course of his career. If Big Truck manages that, I will be more than a little shocked. He looks like a one-turn/minor stakes horse to me.

the comparison was due to the hard luck stories in connection with the horse. dollar bill always had an excuse, some drama, as well....

[Mortimer]

The clueless trying to clue in the clueless.






Rule 4----by the way.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Just stick by your gut instinct. A lot can happen in the Derby and if this colt makes it into the field, he deserves a look. I liked what I saw yesterday and while some others may disagree about that, that's what makes this sport so much fun.

Just trying to get some feedback.
I dont particularly like the horse.
I just thought this distinctly better than before.
Maybe not.

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan

The clueless trying to clue in the clueless.






Rule 4----by the way.

They let Morton into the "smart room"
Excellent.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

We finally agree....

... inability to smell sarcasm is astounding.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan

The clueless trying to clue in the clueless.