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pgardn 02-16-2008 08:49 PM

Big Truck
 
Horse has got into trouble before.
He has battled winning and losing.
Ran terrible in the slop at GP.

Today pinched back at the start.
Wide around the first turn, wide on the second turn
bumping down the stretch and the horse almost won.

This is not a lightly raced 3 year old. I was
very impressed with his effort considering the
difficulty today.

Do we dare mention him as a Derby Hopeful?

letswastemoney 02-16-2008 08:54 PM

Yup I see no reason why not to label him a contender.

The Bid 02-16-2008 10:05 PM

No, there wasnt a decent Derby contender in that group, and he isnt either.

NTamm1215 02-16-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
No, there wasnt a decent Derby contender in that group, and he isnt either.

Well said. I couldn't agree more although one more for Nick Zito in his 2008 embarassment of riches is OK by me.

NT

Cajungator26 02-16-2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Horse has got into trouble before.
He has battled winning and losing.
Ran terrible in the slop at GP.

Today pinched back at the start.
Wide around the first turn, wide on the second turn
bumping down the stretch and the horse almost won.

This is not a lightly raced 3 year old. I was
very impressed with his effort considering the
difficulty today.

Do we dare mention him as a Derby Hopeful?

Thought the same thing, but apparently few agree. It's not like there are any awesome contenders at this point (besides War Pass and Pyro.)

pgardn 02-16-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Thought the same thing, but apparently few agree. It's not like there are any awesome contenders at this point (besides War Pass and Pyro.)

It is still very early so its hard to tell.
All conjecture of course.

I just thought he overcame a whole lot
of trouble, ran an extra long race and would
have won at 10f. The effort was very solid.

Cajungator26 02-16-2008 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
It is still very early so its hard to tell.
All conjecture of course.

I just thought he overcame a whole lot
of trouble, ran an extra long race and would
have won at 10f. The effort was very solid.

Loved how he galloped out. Perhaps The Bid is right and we didn't see any decent Derby contenders in this field, but if I had to choose one, it would most likely be him.

pgardn 02-16-2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Loved how he galloped out. Perhaps The Bid is right and we didn't see any decent Derby contenders in this field, but if I had to choose one, it would most likely be him.

I am not entirely sure what a decent Derby contender is.
Pyro was amazing with his last 1/4. War Pass obviously has
to be considered. Cowboy Cal lost today on the turf but looked
good. Pletcher says he goes to the Bluegrass but dirt... So I am
not sure about contenders right now.

Its very hard to say oh so and so (not mentioned above) will beat the crap
out of this horse at 10f. For example I personally think the bad cat looks
very nice but going 10f at the pace he runs... heck I dont know.

hurricanefrank 02-17-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
And I guess I just am missing what you guys are seeing in Big Truck. Have you seen his previous races?

Makes two of us. He seems to either find trouble or another horse who's better than him that day.

Holland Hacker 02-17-2008 08:22 AM

I think Big Truck is a "contender" at this point. I saw him run in the Remsen last Fall and was impressed then when he got up to finish Third. I was at the Top of the stretch that day and he totally got stopped at the top of the lane and lost ALL momentum. I'm not saying he was better than Court Vision on that day but in my opinion he ran very well to be third. Check out the photo I took as Big truck got stopped.

http://billtheobaldphotography.smugm...892_zhW45-L-LB

The Bid 02-17-2008 08:38 AM

Court Vision and Big Truck are about the same in regards to the Derby, hopeless.

Danzig 02-17-2008 08:44 AM

big truck= dollar bill.

Cajungator26 02-17-2008 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Court Vision and Big Truck are about the same in regards to the Derby, hopeless.

With the exception of War Pass and Pyro, which horse do you think has a legit shot at this point?

miraja2 02-17-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
It is still very early so its hard to tell.
All conjecture of course.

I just thought he overcame a whole lot
of trouble, ran an extra long race and would
have won at 10f.
The effort was very solid.

There is absolutley no way to know something like that. If those horses had been running a 10f race yesterday, the race would have looked completely different.
I do not think this horse remotely qualifies as a legitimate Kentucky Derby contender. Tagg is about as sharp as they come and I seriously doubt if he is thinking about that race with this horse.

As for the Dollar Bill comparison, that horse hit the board in five G1 stakes over the course of his career. If Big Truck manages that, I will be more than a little shocked. He looks like a one-turn/minor stakes horse to me.

miraja2 02-17-2008 09:10 AM

Perhaps I am just crazy, but I thought the horse that actually won the race yesterday was more impressive than any of the horses that did not.
HE might be a Kentucky Derby contender. I certainly wouldn't have him ranked in my top ten or fifteen, because I don't think he beat very much, but I would have him rated higher than Big Truck.

Cajungator26 02-17-2008 09:14 AM

I dunno... agree with Dahoss that perhaps I am just grasping onto whatever contender I can. This year's crop is rather boring so far (War Pass excluded.)

miraja2 02-17-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I dunno... agree with Dahoss that perhaps I am just grasping onto whatever contender I can. This year's crop is rather boring so far (War Pass excluded.)

I agree, but somebody will probably emerge in the next couple of weeks. They usually do.
Perhaps Dennis of Cork - or someone else - will generate some excitement starting tomorrow.


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