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Old 02-15-2008, 08:45 AM
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I never actually said anything about Durants skills except that they werent greatly inferior as you posted. Maybe if you actually read what I posted you would understand what my point was? You said that stats are not reflective of true ability. That is probably true when a player LACKS the numbers that really define his game. Or if Durant was taking 23 shots a games and scoring 19 points per (which is where ppgn was way off) compared to a similar player who was taking 15 and putting up the same numbers. The only place where it is hard to use stats on guys like this is on defense which is an area that I have stated that Durant is seriously lacking. LeBron and Kobe are only motivated to actually play hard on defense on occasion but they do seemingly understand the concepts while Durant is just floating around. The fact that his production is similar or superior to those guys numbers at the same age doesn't gaurantee that he will be or is as good as those guys. But it does PROVE that he is an extraordinarliy skilled player that potentially has a chance to be one of the top ten players in the league. You cant put up numbers like this at 19 in the NBA unless you are very good.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:53 PM
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. Or if Durant was taking 23 shots a games and scoring 19 points per (which is where ppgn was way off)
I did not look up his stats.
It was a guess that I felt about summed up his
game. What was way off... ? He goes about 7 out of 19?
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:11 PM
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I did not look up his stats.
It was a guess that I felt about summed up his
game. What was way off... ? He goes about 7 out of 19?
7 for 17
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:43 PM
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7 for 17
He also plays a bunch during junk time.
Junk time occurs as early as the 2nd quarter
in Seattle games.

This also cannot be discounted.

I like the kid. He is a good kid, and I believe he
will be a top shooter and scorer eventually. But right
now... I think the expectations of exactly how he would
play in an NBA game were off. I believe people thought the
kid could drive to the hoop, score in the paint, hit the long jumpers.
He basically has accomplished one of the three.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:02 PM
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He also plays a bunch during junk time.
Junk time occurs as early as the 2nd quarter
in Seattle games.

This also cannot be discounted.

I like the kid. He is a good kid, and I believe he
will be a top shooter and scorer eventually. But right
now... I think the expectations of exactly how he would
play in an NBA game were off. I believe people thought the
kid could drive to the hoop, score in the paint, hit the long jumpers.
He basically has accomplished one of the three.
I like that move. Saying something that not only has no basis but is irrefutable because there is no way to define or measure it. You should have been a traffic court lawyer. There is still time. Night school maybe? NBA scout is out of the picture of course.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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I like that move. Saying something that not only has no basis but is irrefutable because there is no way to define or measure it. You should have been a traffic court lawyer. There is still time. Night school maybe? NBA scout is out of the picture of course.
No way to define or measure what?
Seattle is a bad team. You disagree?
Durant is not exactly getting the lock down
D put on him playing on a team that does not
stay close in very many games. You disagree?

Playing on a team that gets many more shots at the
baskets than a team like San Antonio because they play
very little D and do not spend a lot of time working the ball on
offense. You disagree?

By all Statistical categories Phoenix should consistently crush the
Spurs. But they dont. Why is this? Why do teams like the Pistons
rarely have statistical leaders in any category?
You are stat stuck.
But nonetheless a good fella that makes for good conversation.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:37 AM
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No way to define or measure what?
Seattle is a bad team. You disagree?
Durant is not exactly getting the lock down
D put on him playing on a team that does not
stay close in very many games. You disagree?

Playing on a team that gets many more shots at the
baskets than a team like San Antonio because they play
very little D and do not spend a lot of time working the ball on
offense. You disagree?

By all Statistical categories Phoenix should consistently crush the
Spurs. But they dont. Why is this? Why do teams like the Pistons
rarely have statistical leaders in any category?
You are stat stuck.
But nonetheless a good fella that makes for good conversation.
Seattle loses an average game by 7 points. So are you trying to say that the top scoring threat on an NBA team gets loose coverage because the other team knows it is going to win anyway? Wouldnt he as the primary point producer get more attention than an average player? So in the 13 games that they won, he wasnt on the court during the important possessions? That is a very shaky theory. Sure he is getting numbers in Seattle because they stink and he is kind of forced to. But his production is very good when you consider his age, experience level, lack of talented teammates and physical shortcomings.
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