NBA Rookie of the Year?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you compare the production of the three at age 19, which I did, it is clear that he is as productive as those 2 were at the same age. Is that too hard for you to understand? Do Lebrons 20 a game in 36 mins as a rookie count more than Durants 20 a game in 33 minutes? His skills at age 19 are not greatly inferior to either player. No one is saying that he will become the players that those 2 are now but he is nowhere near 'greatly inferior" to either at the same stage of their careers.

I doubt that there is anything you could say that would be too hard for me to understand...you flatter your intellect. We disagree on the extent of Durant's skills at this time in his career...I fail to see how that makes me unable to "understand" anything.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I doubt that there is anything you could say that would be too hard for me to understand...you flatter your intellect. We disagree on the extent of Durant's skills at this time in his career...I fail to see how that makes me unable to "understand" anything.

And you think that your opinion counts more than what actually occurs on the court. Look at the numbers and tell me MR. Basketball, how Durant can produce similar numbers to the 2 other platers despite greatly inferior skills? You cannot so you resort to personal shots. The original point i was making was to refute Ppgns summary that Durant was a one dimensional gunner by posting his numbers as compared to the 2 best players in the NBA at the same point in each's career. Then you popped in with your numbers dont matter BS and you want to tell everyone how smart you are because you took Shaun Marion in your fantasy team last year?

[King Glorious]

I'd take Michael Beasley over Durant. Durant is going to end up being just like Rashard Lewis. A guy that can consistently get you 20-23 a night but very little else and won't be able to go inside at all. He's going to rely on the jumper and that's it. There is a place for him and there is never anything wrong with a guy that can get you 20-23 a night. But there are also quite a few guys around the league that could do it under the same circumstances that Durant has now.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And you think that your opinion counts more than what actually occurs on the court. Look at the numbers and tell me MR. Basketball, how Durant can produce similar numbers to the 2 other platers despite greatly inferior skills? You cannot so you resort to personal shots. The original point i was making was to refute Ppgns summary that Durant was a one dimensional gunner by posting his numbers as compared to the 2 best players in the NBA at the same point in each's career. Then you popped in with your numbers dont matter BS and you want to tell everyone how smart you are because you took Shaun Marion in your fantasy team last year?

First off...I didn't question your intellect, you questioned mine...I simply replied that I am fully capable of understanding anything you post so don't flatter yourself.
Secondly...I don't recall ever selecting Marion in fantasy ball, perhaps I did but I certainly wouldn't brag about it, he's always listed as #1 so what would there be to brag about???
Thirdly (and lastly cause this is going nowhere cause we both have our opinions)...we see Durant's skill set completely differently. Time will tell which is right.

[Cannon Shell]

I never actually said anything about Durants skills except that they werent greatly inferior as you posted. Maybe if you actually read what I posted you would understand what my point was? You said that stats are not reflective of true ability. That is probably true when a player LACKS the numbers that really define his game. Or if Durant was taking 23 shots a games and scoring 19 points per (which is where ppgn was way off) compared to a similar player who was taking 15 and putting up the same numbers. The only place where it is hard to use stats on guys like this is on defense which is an area that I have stated that Durant is seriously lacking. LeBron and Kobe are only motivated to actually play hard on defense on occasion but they do seemingly understand the concepts while Durant is just floating around. The fact that his production is similar or superior to those guys numbers at the same age doesn't gaurantee that he will be or is as good as those guys. But it does PROVE that he is an extraordinarliy skilled player that potentially has a chance to be one of the top ten players in the league. You cant put up numbers like this at 19 in the NBA unless you are very good.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

. Or if Durant was taking 23 shots a games and scoring 19 points per (which is where ppgn was way off)

I did not look up his stats.
It was a guess that I felt about summed up his
game. What was way off... ? He goes about 7 out of 19?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I did not look up his stats.
It was a guess that I felt about summed up his
game. What was way off... ? He goes about 7 out of 19?

7 for 17

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

7 for 17

He also plays a bunch during junk time.
Junk time occurs as early as the 2nd quarter
in Seattle games.

This also cannot be discounted.

I like the kid. He is a good kid, and I believe he
will be a top shooter and scorer eventually. But right
now... I think the expectations of exactly how he would
play in an NBA game were off. I believe people thought the
kid could drive to the hoop, score in the paint, hit the long jumpers.
He basically has accomplished one of the three.