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Old 02-01-2008, 05:24 PM
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Odom vs. Pippen? Pippen is in or going to be in the HOF mostly as a great defender who had good transition skills. Odom rarely bothers with defense.

Kukoc should not be in the Grant/Rodman group as he was a totally different type of player than th other 2. Grant was a rebounder and post defender. Rodman was a rebounder and versitile defender to the extreme. Kukoc was a perimeter shooter who rarely played post defense and was a poor rebounder for his size. Walton is a match with Kukoc perhaps but isnt nearly the scorer he was though a better passer. Ariza is not compatable with any of these guys

Bj/Kerr combo vs Fischer is not too bad

Cartwright was an immobile, traditional center with a good touch and passable post defense. Bynum is an athletic, mobile type of modern center. Gasol is not really a center.

Jordan/Kobe is ok

2 out of 5?
Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:34 PM
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Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively
Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:36 PM
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Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.
HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:44 PM
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HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.
All Cartright did was block hook shots and dunks. Wilt had face up game, at least from what I have seen on ESPN Classic
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:11 PM
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All Cartright did was block hook shots and dunks. Wilt had face up game, at least from what I have seen on ESPN Classic
Seriously, you really have no idea what you are talking about. Cartwright only avg 0.6 blocks a game. He has a great turn-around J and played entirely with his back to the basket. He would do the turn-around j or would face up his man.
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Lakers are 9-1 to win the championship this year. I might take them.
What site?
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:15 PM
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9-1 is not too bad at all. Phoenix and Dallas arent really playing all that well. The Spurs may not have it this year. New Orleans is the leader of the west--imagine that. So $20 on the Lakers at 9-1 might be a good bet.
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HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
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He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
He's no Bob McAdoo
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:30 PM
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He's no Bob McAdoo
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:03 PM
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He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
How would he have a fade away, HE NEVER LEFT HIS FEET.

Now I have a mean fade away.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:30 PM
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How would he have a fade away, HE NEVER LEFT HIS FEET.

Now I have a mean fade away.
Reading is fundemental. Where does it say fade away? face=fade?
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:45 PM
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Reading is fundemental. Where does it say fade away? face=fade?
I'm an idiot...imagining things. Crazy day shoveling snow all day.....
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Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively
Cartwright was an excellent mid range shooter. That was his whole offensive game. He is like a black Ilgaukaus. Walton is not Kukoc. The only they have in common is that they are both white. Walton is a pass first player who plays a little d and tries to play a role. Kukoc was strictly a one dimensional shooter. Pippen may have been a douche bag but he was a tremendous defender.
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