IEAH buys into Court Vision

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Huh? Who is we and why do they want you to tout the Zito? You don't mislead on this site? I'm confused.

I was also confused.

Further, last I looked - it was Pyro who is the future book Derby favorite and not War Pass.

[Bobby Fischer]

Future bets... Shmooture bets. If the Derby was run today, War Pass would be the clear favorite.

And deservedly so. He has "earned" the public's favortism. Appraising the public's favorite horses is very important. Anyway, this morning, I came across a nice piece of work that Steve Haskin put together
Derby Contenders with SH top 10: http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/War_Pa..._Spotlight.pdf
He did a nice job with all his writeups and it is a nice read.

Haskin leaves two very important names off of his top 10 ranking. Visionaire - A Matz trained horse with a lot of potential(Valor bought in will be placed in some of the bigger preps) , and Denis of Cork - a Carroll trained horse with a "push button" style. Haskin does mention that Borel has commited to Turf War as his Derby jockey, and that is a HUGE detriment to Denis of Cork with whom it would be very hard to think of a better jockey/horse fit for his style.

Interesting that Haskin Lists CV and Monba 1 and 2... That matches my opinion but neither horse is really above and beyond any others at this stage. Hard to separate anything at this point.

I would like to hear more of who you guys like and don't like, if you don't mind sharing. This is an interesting year for opinions and debate. I already know i'm an idiot!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Future bets... Shmooture bets. If the Derby was run today, War Pass would be the clear favorite.

And deservedly so. He has "earned" the public's favortism. Appraising the public's favorite horses is very important. Anyway, this morning, I came across a nice piece of work that Steve Haskin put together
Derby Contenders with SH top 10: http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/War_Pa..._Spotlight.pdf
He did a nice job with all his writeups and it is a nice read.

Haskin leaves two very important names off of his top 10 ranking. Visionaire - A Matz trained horse with a lot of potential(Valor bought in will be placed in some of the bigger preps) , and Denis of Cork - a Carroll trained horse with a "push button" style. Haskin does mention that Borel has commited to Turf War as his Derby jockey, and that is a HUGE detriment to Denis of Cork with whom it would be very hard to think of a better jockey/horse fit for his style.

Interesting that Haskin Lists CV and Monba 1 and 2... That matches my opinion but neither horse is really above and beyond any others at this stage. Hard to separate anything at this point.

I would like to hear more of who you guys like and don't like, if you don't mind sharing. This is an interesting year for opinions and debate. I already know i'm an idiot!

As far as Borel committing to Turf War I'd say that's more to the detriment of Blackberry Road, who Borel has ridden in four consecutive races.

I wouldn't include Denis of Cork or Visionaire on a Top 10 list now either. (Quick everyone, pencil these two in as your Derby exacta)

I need to see more from both, but that's just my opinion.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

IEAH has raised a ton of capital from some wall street bigwigs and absolutely has to spend that cash and get a Derby prospect. I'm sure that this horse was on their radar as a horse they could justify spending big money for especially considering that they did so well with a son of his brother. He has well known connections and is easily marketed to novices they recruited who happen to have tons of cash to burn.

If he retired right now I cant see him standing for more than $7500 in this market. The 100 mares a year for 3 years is not really pertinent at this level. #1 because these types get very little 2nd and 3rd year action because the fear of breeding to a cheap and cold stud and #2 because virtually no one has to pay full fee for stallions that dont have great demand.

Personally I love IEAH and hope that I am lucky enough to be able to sell a horse to them. Why should Sheikh Mo be the only overpayer on the market?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IEAH has raised a ton of capital from some wall street bigwigs and absolutely has to spend that cash and get a Derby prospect. I'm sure that this horse was on their radar as a horse they could justify spending big money for especially considering that they did so well with a son of his brother. He has well known connections and is easily marketed to novices they recruited who happen to have tons of cash to burn.

If he retired right now I cant see him standing for more than $7500 in this market. The 100 mares a year for 3 years is not really pertinent at this level. #1 because these types get very little 2nd and 3rd year action because the fear of breeding to a cheap and cold stud and #2 because virtually no one has to pay full fee for stallions that dont have great demand.

Personally I love IEAH and hope that I am lucky enough to be able to sell a horse to them. Why should Sheikh Mo be the only overpayer on the market?

or paul reddam....