IEAH buys into Court Vision

[mp3]

ok. guess you guys have this one figured out already. You must be sharper than them. who are they in this game anyway???dont know what they paid. heard rumors of a 5mm valuation

[The Bid]

5 million for half?

Just because you spend a lot of money on a horse doesnt make you sharp.

[mp3]

only heard rumors, 2.5 for 51m percent

[The Bid]

I heard 5 million, so whether thats half, or 2.5 for half thats too much money for that horse on merit. Although I guess if you can get 51% of a Derby Starter for 2-5 million it beats paying 5-10 million a few months from now.

[blackthroatedwind]

$5 million for Court Vision is a real head scratcher.

I hope for their sake he works out better than Adagio.

[The Bid]

Adagio, Pshew. What a stinker.

I do like Frost Giant

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Adagio, Pshew. What a stinker.

I do like Frost Giant

Another great purchase.

They've had a couple terrific purchases, no doubt, but they get a lot more publicity than the disasters.

Great game.....but a brutal game.

[The Bid]

Ive always thought if you really know what you are doing there is no need to pay premium for any horse. If you are confident in what you are doing, how you are buying, and who you are dealing with, why would you want to pay top dollar?

[Bobby Fischer]

Court Vision hasn't really flashed an elite level of talent that prognosticators see readily and tout in January. There is really nothing about him that puts you in awe, but he is so far the classiest horse, and has the right style. A lot of people think this is War Pass and Zito's year. It is also hard not "want" to see Monba develop into the horse that he has seductively shown signs of being. Anak Nakal still has every opportunity to be the best, and Asmussen has that Siphon City colt (Fortune) running like a bear, and actually looking like he may out-run the pedigree.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How exactly is Court Vision the classiest? How did you determine that?

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Looks good in a tux? Always stands for a woman at the table?

I have no idea....but it sounds like the kind of thing someone says about a horse they like but have no good or defendable reason to back up that opinion.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Always stands for a woman at the table?

Does he now? Sad that a 3 year old colt has more manners than most men.

[Bobby Fischer]

stamina. can rate, shows a response, is game to the wire, adequete talent , looks good in a tux...

His main question marks are his talent and his trainer. Both are "solid"

He was number one on my list after the remsen. We are supposed to tout the Zito horse, but i don't mislead on this site. Wouldn't be surprised if Court Vision won the Derby or finished off the board. We have three months.

[The Bid]

If you pay 5 million for a horse you better get the goods. Is he the goods, I wouldnt bet 5 million on it.

[Indian Charlie]

a 3yo i find more intriguing than CV is public image. he runs like he can go much further, but i'm iffy on his breeding and the amount of time left before the derby.

he's by benchmark out of a half to officer. very impressive, at least visually.

Where are the good 3 year olds?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Huh? Who is we and why do they want you to tout the Zito? You don't mislead on this site? I'm confused.

I was also confused.

Further, last I looked - it was Pyro who is the future book Derby favorite and not War Pass.

[Bobby Fischer]

Future bets... Shmooture bets. If the Derby was run today, War Pass would be the clear favorite.

And deservedly so. He has "earned" the public's favortism. Appraising the public's favorite horses is very important. Anyway, this morning, I came across a nice piece of work that Steve Haskin put together
Derby Contenders with SH top 10: http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/War_Pa..._Spotlight.pdf
He did a nice job with all his writeups and it is a nice read.

Haskin leaves two very important names off of his top 10 ranking. Visionaire - A Matz trained horse with a lot of potential(Valor bought in will be placed in some of the bigger preps) , and Denis of Cork - a Carroll trained horse with a "push button" style. Haskin does mention that Borel has commited to Turf War as his Derby jockey, and that is a HUGE detriment to Denis of Cork with whom it would be very hard to think of a better jockey/horse fit for his style.

Interesting that Haskin Lists CV and Monba 1 and 2... That matches my opinion but neither horse is really above and beyond any others at this stage. Hard to separate anything at this point.

I would like to hear more of who you guys like and don't like, if you don't mind sharing. This is an interesting year for opinions and debate. I already know i'm an idiot!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by mp3

ok. guess you guys have this one figured out already. You must be sharper than them. who are they in this game anyway???dont know what they paid. heard rumors of a 5mm valuation

$5mm doesn't seem too unreasonable. Horse probably stands for 10k if they retire him today, that's about a $3mm value right now (100 mares a year X 3 years) Hey, I give them credit for building a partnership up to the level where they can get a Derby starter or a BC winner.

I just can never, ever forgive the A One Rocket debacle.

[blackthroatedwind]

I have a hard time believing that horse could get paid $10K for 100 covers.

And, I'm not quite sure the horse business will be unaffected by a recession.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I have a hard time believing that horse could get paid $10K for 100 covers.

And, I'm not quite sure the horse business will be unaffected by a recession.

100 is doubtful, but that's what they calculate off of.

FYI, my $10k estimation is based off of The Cliff's Edge who stands for that amount, who has a similar pedigree and only somewhat more accomplished (despite being certainly faster).