Manny

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

None of those guys ever got in 165 runs.



He has played just about half his time in Cleveland so that tosses the Fenway thing...his best years were here,too ...he does stink in the field and on the bases,but is a natural born hitter.

I would think he certainly is in the same class with the first 3....but that's just a predator speaking.

Of course if the 165 are taken in context of the brief era of 70 hrs seasons it is not quite so impressive though you could surely make the same case for Bonds

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course if the 165 are taken in context of the brief era of 70 hrs seasons it is not quite so impressive though you could surely make the same case for Bonds

I don't think Shirley can.


Which is also why Rameriz is a top 3 guy.

He also should be very close to Gehrigs 23 grand slam record.....but not a big deal.