Tiki Barber

[Scav]

Originally Posted by golfer

Bob Dernier in centerfield

LEE SMITH and the HAWK...

[Scav]

And the other Smith that I cant remember his first name. Play the field, Leon or something, I'll think of it

[pointman]

Back to Tiki, the problem here is that he is full of sh*%. If Coughlin was really the reason he retired, why would he announce it in the middle of the season last year? Why wouldn't he wait until the end of the year and not only see if Coughin got fired (which nearly happened), but lobby for it with upper management? He wouldn't be the first player to pull that trick. I have the feeling that if the Giants had a choice of having either Tiki or Coughlin back, Tiki would be back. I doubt Coughlin will be back next year anyway. I find it hard to believe that Tiki quit because of Coughlin, he quit because he wanted the job in the media.

Chuck, I agree with you that it is good for players to speak their minds, but Tiki has gone beyond that. First, it should be the truth. Second, regarding Manning, I have no problem with him criticizing him, but he should not be commenting on things that occurred in the locker room between players, not in front of journalists. Criticize his play all you want (there should be more than enough fodder to this point), but don't start trying to tear a team apart as a journalist that you no longer play for.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Back to Tiki, the problem here is that he is full of sh*%. If Coughlin was really the reason he retired, why would he announce it in the middle of the season last year? Why wouldn't he wait until the end of the year and not only see if Coughin got fired (which nearly happened), but lobby for it with upper management? He wouldn't be the first player to pull that trick. I have the feeling that if the Giants had a choice of having either Tiki or Coughlin back, Tiki would be back. I doubt Coughlin will be back next year anyway. I find it hard to believe that Tiki quit because of Coughlin, he quit because he wanted the job in the media.

Chuck, I agree with you that it is good for players to speak their minds, but Tiki has gone beyond that. First, it should be the truth. Second, regarding Manning, I have no problem with him criticizing him, but he should not be commenting on things that occurred in the locker room between players, not in front of journalists. Criticize his play all you want (there should be more than enough fodder to this point), but don't start trying to tear a team apart as a journalist that you no longer play for.

in the days of no franchise players, and free agency, why didn't he go elsewhere? he certainly could have taken his talent and love of the game to greener pastures, if things were so bad there. out ten mill, had to put up with a rotten coach and a poor QB...according to tiki that is. granted, he's got the right to speak his mind, but certainly others have a right to question his timing and sincerity. but, he has a book to sell, and as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If you want to hear a guy with no clue,then it would be this damn Charlie Steiner(calls some of the Dodger away games when Scully stays in L.A.)THAT GUY REALLY DOES THINK ABOUT 80% of flyballs are going yard,and when they don't, it's always the wind that knocked that ball down.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

The whole thing with Tiki and Coughlin is :

1)Tiki is about as 2 faced as it gets,and thinks he was worth way more than he ever was(too big an ego,and not a team player.)

2)Coughlin can't get guys to play as a single unit.

All this stuff is the result of that.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The whole thing with Tiki and Coughlin is :

1)Tiki is about as 2 faced as it gets,and thinks he was worth way more than he ever was(too big an ego,and not a team player.)

2)Coughlin can't get guys to play as a single unit.

All this stuff is the result of that.

And Giants will be .500 at best and Coughlin will be gone after the season...but at least Strahan is back

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Scavs,looks like Dodgers gunna lay down nice for ya.You'd be very unlucky to lose this one.You see the throw from KEMP? He has a head half-full of styrofoam.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The whole thing with Tiki and Coughlin is :

1)Tiki is about as 2 faced as it gets,and thinks he was worth way more than he ever was(too big an ego,and not a team player.)

2)Coughlin can't get guys to play as a single unit.

All this stuff is the result of that.

scuds you are spot on - the thing with Coughlin and the BC connection and the Mara family got him another year - i thought he should have been axed

i have no words about Tiki