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[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I knew he wasnt a champ and this is why we cannot say Silver Train is a champ. He has looked great at Belmont, but he will never be a champ. And we shouldnt call him the "returning champ."

Lets think about this for a moment, Silver Train barely beats Sun King and Sun King comes back and loses. Maybe the Met Mile wasnt a very good race. Silver Train is an good horse at Belmont, anywhere else he is sub-par.

Silver Train is a good horse at Belmont? Wow, are you sure about that? With G1 wins in the BC Sprint and the Met Mile you will only go out on the limb and say GOOD?

Who shall we call the returning champ then? Lost in the Fog? a horse that got cooked in the BC sprint by Silver Train.

In my mind, right or wrong, last years winner of the BC sprint is the reigning sprint champ. I don't care who won the Eclipse.

Furthermore it was just a throwaway expression. Sun King almost got the ST in the Met but one mile is a little stretch for ST. He dueled with someone through fast fractions in the Met and still had some stamina to hold on.

Outside of Belmont he is so far unproven, but so what.
I guess I just don't get it sometimes the things people choose to focus in on and make a debating point. The thread was started with the idea that "Hey look at this race. It ought to be a good one". It hardly seems a controversial
premise.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Silver Train is a good horse at Belmont? Wow, are you sure about that? With G1 wins in the BC Sprint and the Met Mile you will only go out on the limb and say GOOD?

Who shall we call the returning champ then? Lost in the Fog? a horse that got cooked in the BC sprint by Silver Train.

In my mind, right or wrong, last years winner of the BC sprint is the reigning sprint champ. I don't care who won the Eclipse.

Furthermore it was just a throwaway expression. Sun King almost got the ST in the Met but one mile is a little stretch for ST. He dueled with someone through fast fractions in the Met and still had some stamina to hold on.

Outside of Belmont he is so far unproven, but so what.
I guess I just don't get it sometimes the things people choose to focus in on and make a debating point. The thread was started with the idea that "Hey look at this race. It ought to be a good one". It hardly seems a controversial
premise.

Fog won the eclipse award for top sprinter--therefore he is the Champ like it or not. I dont agree with it, but I didnt vote.

It is going to be a good race. I am excited to see it. Two Grade I wins does not make for a great horse. There are only a few horses I consider great. The term great is throw around way way too much.

[ArlJim78]

Eurobounce 11:26 AM
"Yes Silver Train is a great horse. I loved it when he came roaring down the lane in the BC Sprint"

Eurobounce 11:58 AM
"Two Grade I wins does not make for a great horse. There are only a few horses I consider great. The term great is throw around way way too much."


Did you have a sudden change of heart?

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Eurobounce 11:26 AM
"Yes Silver Train is a great horse. I loved it when he came roaring down the lane in the BC Sprint"

Eurobounce 11:58 AM
"Two Grade I wins does not make for a great horse. There are only a few horses I consider great. The term great is throw around way way too much."


Did you have a sudden change of heart?

Yes I did. I shouldnt have written "great." I used that term to loosely in this case. I do apologize.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yes I did. I shouldnt have written "great." I used that term to loosely in this case. I do apologize.

No problem! I couldn't resist to post that, forgive me. I just got a good chuckle out of it.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No problem! I couldn't resist to post that, forgive me. I just got a good chuckle out of it.

I would have done the same. Like you, I also had a good chuckle.