Acid test for Anew

[chupster2]

I am NOT a SIlver Train fan. Most inconsistant horse EVER. I am very excited about Anew. I hope he is in great form.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by chupster2

I am NOT a SIlver Train fan. Most inconsistant horse EVER. I am very excited about Anew. I hope he is in great form.

At Belmont, he's as consistent as can be. His only bad races are away from Belly..

[ArlJim78]

Acid test. What an understatement. this is great news, I didn't even know that this match-up was coming up. You've got the returning sprint champ on his home track versus the newcomer who is in great form. I am soooo keyed up for this!

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Acid test. What an understatement. this is great news, I didn't even know that this match-up was coming up. You've got the returning sprint champ on his home track versus the newcomer who is in great form. I am soooo keyed up for this!

Who is the returning Sprint Champ? I dont think Silver Train won an eclipse for top sprinter? I could be wrong. If I am, please correct me.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Who is the returning Sprint Champ? I dont think Silver Train won an eclipse for top sprinter? I could be wrong. If I am, please correct me.

Didn't Silver Train win the BC Sprint? That's what I meant.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Who is the returning Sprint Champ? I dont think Silver Train won an eclipse for top sprinter? I could be wrong. If I am, please correct me.

You obviously knew he wasn't the champ but winning the BC sprint last year and now the Met Mile this year certainly makes him the most accomplished sprinter currently in training. Remind me of the sprinters racing now who have won two races of that prominence(the two most elite races for horses one turn at a mile or under)?

[chupster2]

That was before this year. He lucked out with a couple of good runs last year, but every other time I watched him he blew air. Like I said, this year will be a different story.

[Gander]

Should be a nice little race, looking forward to see how Anew holds up with a better horse than the muchly overhyped Tigger chasing him. Not a big fan of Silver Train but you have to give credit where it is due. Lucky for him Belmont Park is one of the premier tracks and he has taken a liken to this surface instead of a toy track like for instance Delaware Park or Philadelphia.

Has Silver Train ever run well anywhere else?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by chupster2

That was before this year. He lucked out with a couple of good runs last year, but every other time I watched him he blew air. Like I said, this year will be a different story.

Show me one bad race he's run at Belmont.

He came within one-hundredth of a second of the six-furlong track record and would've gotten it if Prado hadn't geared him down, he wired the Jerome, won the BC Sprint and the Met Mile.

Call him a one-track wonder, but inconsistent? Hardly.

Originally Posted by oracle80

You obviously knew he wasn't the champ but winning the BC sprint last year and now the Met Mile this year certainly makes him the most accomplished sprinter currently in training. Remind me of the sprinters racing now who have won two races of that prominence(the two most elite races for horses one turn at a mile or under)?

I believe you were the one making fun of Tiger and saying some interesting things about Anew a few months back. You won't be talking so much when Anew romps over your Dutrow horse, will you?

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

I believe you were the one making fun of Tiger and saying some interesting things about Anew a few months back. You won't be talking so much when Anew romps over your Dutrow horse, will you?

Well hes sure not my horse, though I sorely wish he was. I don't quite understand all the unprovoked venom you spew but all I know is that it should be one hell of a race and that I give Silver Train a slight edge here. Going 6f Anew would most likely win, but at 7F I think that Silver Train will wear him down. Hes also had a little more time between his last race and this one.
Do you ever have any postive thoughts about racing or horses? Just wondered.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You obviously knew he wasn't the champ but winning the BC sprint last year and now the Met Mile this year certainly makes him the most accomplished sprinter currently in training. Remind me of the sprinters racing now who have won two races of that prominence(the two most elite races for horses one turn at a mile or under)?

Right OH! When I think back to how good he looked in the Met Mile, unreal. In the post parade he looked like such a confident, fit, superior athlete.

With that said, he is facing a horse, Anew, that may at this point still be under-rated because of how he raced before the "equipment" change. He destroyed the field in his last race.

Summit of Speed, Claiming Crown, and now this. Another fine weekend of racing ahead. The only drag is the Barbaro situation which gives us all heavy hearts.

[Gander]

Sorry, you are right. While Delaware is certainly no Belmont, its not nearly as bad and depressing as Philadelphia. My bad.
My point was there is no better track to have a fondeness over than Belmont, king of all tracks. So many grade 1's there at 1 mile or less and it runs 2 different seasons.

Originally Posted by oracle80

You obviously knew he wasn't the champ but winning the BC sprint last year and now the Met Mile this year certainly makes him the most accomplished sprinter currently in training. Remind me of the sprinters racing now who have won two races of that prominence(the two most elite races for horses one turn at a mile or under)?

I knew he wasnt a champ and this is why we cannot say Silver Train is a champ. He has looked great at Belmont, but he will never be a champ. And we shouldnt call him the "returning champ."

Lets think about this for a moment, Silver Train barely beats Sun King and Sun King comes back and loses. Maybe the Met Mile wasnt a very good race. Silver Train is an good horse at Belmont, anywhere else he is sub-par.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I knew he wasnt a champ and this is why we cannot say Silver Train is a champ. He has looked great at Belmont, but he will never be a champ. And we shouldnt call him the "returning champ."

Lets think about this for a moment, Silver Train barely beats Sun King and Sun King comes back and loses. Maybe the Met Mile wasnt a very good race. Silver Train is an good horse at Belmont, anywhere else he is sub-par.

Sun King's loss came in a 4 horse field with no pace and where the winner ran a hole in the wind, in addition Sun King was set for a regression off a lifetime top effort on the numbers. Oh wait, there I go using logic and common sense instead of emotion or how I feel about a horse or his connections to analyze a situation. Wrong place.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I knew he wasnt a champ and this is why we cannot say Silver Train is a champ. He has looked great at Belmont, but he will never be a champ. And we shouldnt call him the "returning champ."

Lets think about this for a moment, Silver Train barely beats Sun King and Sun King comes back and loses. Maybe the Met Mile wasnt a very good race. Silver Train is an good horse at Belmont, anywhere else he is sub-par.

Silver Train is a good horse at Belmont? Wow, are you sure about that? With G1 wins in the BC Sprint and the Met Mile you will only go out on the limb and say GOOD?

Who shall we call the returning champ then? Lost in the Fog? a horse that got cooked in the BC sprint by Silver Train.

In my mind, right or wrong, last years winner of the BC sprint is the reigning sprint champ. I don't care who won the Eclipse.

Furthermore it was just a throwaway expression. Sun King almost got the ST in the Met but one mile is a little stretch for ST. He dueled with someone through fast fractions in the Met and still had some stamina to hold on.

Outside of Belmont he is so far unproven, but so what.
I guess I just don't get it sometimes the things people choose to focus in on and make a debating point. The thread was started with the idea that "Hey look at this race. It ought to be a good one". It hardly seems a controversial
premise.