7/4: Wadsworth Mem. to Funny Cide

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by sumitas

What is so sad about FC running in a $100k stakes @ FL ? I don't get it.

It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?

[Swale84]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?

Where do you draw the line? Would the Mass Cap at Suffolk in the fall be beneath a Derby winner?

[Danzig]

have to wonder how many derby winners over time would be toiling along like funny cide, had they not been rushed to the shed...and how many it would save future generations from, had they shown they didn't really have what it took to 'improve' the breed...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Swale84

Where do you draw the line? Would the Mass Cap at Suffolk in the fall be beneath a Derby winner?

You're comparing a $250,000 G2 to a $100,000 ungraded stake at Finger Lakes?

He would be facing at least a few real handicap horses in the Mass 'Cap. LOOK AT WHO HE'S FACING IN HERE!!!

Originally Posted by Shadow Roll

What's the horse supposed to do? Act all dignified and sit on his laurels?

If they're not going to retire him, this is a good spot for him. THAT'S what's sad, that's it's actually the right spot for him.

[Danzig]

i think they should take him to kentucky horse park, let his adoring fans go see him frolic in the sunshine.

[sumitas]

you've made your points. move on. most people feel FC should run in a $100k stakes at FL. if you have anything new to add do so, otherwise why don't you detractors stop bashing FC with the same old tired arguments.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by sumitas

you've made your points. move on. most people feel FC should run in a $100k stakes at FL. if you have anything new to add do so, otherwise why don't you detractors stop bashing FC with the same old tired arguments.

yes common sence really should not get in the way..........

The horse has no balls.

[ArlJim78]

I don't see the issue. If he's healthy run him, he's a race horse.
Doesn't diminish what he did 4 years ago.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by sumitas

you've made your points. move on. most people feel FC should run in a $100k stakes at FL. if you have anything new to add do so, otherwise why don't you detractors stop bashing FC with the same old tired arguments.

oh please, like the horse gives a damn what's said about him.

i've always thought funny cide should run if he's both willing and able. but is he still both? there comes a time when enough truly is enough. has he reached that point? i have no idea.
my point however was that if their intent with racing this horse is so fans can see him, that is doable by retiring him to lexington where a lot of those fans can visit him- certainly would be more accessible there than at the track.

[outofthebox]

the managing owner was up here the other day bringing boxes of posters and shirts for the first 2k people. Since opening day i think we have only succeeded 1k one time, and between the betting lines and concessions, they were not prepared. A point of interest to note. Management advised the rac. secretary to weigh Accountforgold out of the race. He assigned Accountforgold 129lbs thus making it easy for Gary Contessa to pass this race.

[Swale84]

[quote=ateamstupid]You're comparing a $250,000 G2 to a $100,000 ungraded stake at Finger Lakes?

He would be facing at least a few real handicap horses in the Mass 'Cap. LOOK AT WHO HE'S FACING IN HERE!!!



The Mass Cap is actually $500K this year but is ungraded. Being a few weeks before the Breeders Cup it may not attract anyone no matter what the purse

Other than the Mass Cap the racing at Suffolk is not much better than at Finger Lakes

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

gebbs power won the belmont didnt he...

[Sightseek]

[quote=Swale84]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're comparing a $250,000 G2 to a $100,000 ungraded stake at Finger Lakes?

He would be facing at least a few real handicap horses in the Mass 'Cap. LOOK AT WHO HE'S FACING IN HERE!!!



The Mass Cap is actually $500K this year but is ungraded. Being a few weeks before the Breeders Cup it may not attract anyone no matter what the purse

Other than the Mass Cap the racing at Suffolk is not much better than at Finger Lakes

They are incorporating an added money bonus if the horse who wins previously has won a Graded race(s) in hopes of people going for the money and not the grade elsewhere. It will be a decent race for the Sweetnorthernsaint types who don't need graded wins for breeding purposes.

[Suffolk Shippers]

[quote=Swale84]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're comparing a $250,000 G2 to a $100,000 ungraded stake at Finger Lakes?

He would be facing at least a few real handicap horses in the Mass 'Cap. LOOK AT WHO HE'S FACING IN HERE!!!



The Mass Cap is actually $500K this year but is ungraded. Being a few weeks before the Breeders Cup it may not attract anyone no matter what the purse

Other than the Mass Cap the racing at Suffolk is not much better than at Finger Lakes

I wouldnt be surprised to see Funny Cide at this years Mass Cap, provided it doesn't turn up tough, like it did in the 90's with Cigar et al...as mentioned above, the added "bonus" money still may not attract anyone, unless they are looking for a paid public work out.

The Mass Cap figures to turn up Funny Cide, Perfect Drift, Evening Attire, Sweetnorthernsaint, Wilko, maybe some more of those types.

Anyways, I have mixed feelings re: FC in the Wadsworth. Anyone who knows me on this board has seen my older rants that Sackatoga should show some sack and just retire the old boy. I haven't changed my stance on that. They have made their investment how many times over and they owe it to the animal to let him walk off gracefully. However, as time goes on, I wonder if they believe that the horse even wants to move on? I just don't think that they are all that naive and couldnt see it or that maybe Tagg wouldnt just come out and say that the horse doesnt want to put the bridle on anymore.

The whole situation to me is odd. I have trouble deciding whether the owners just are foolish and naive and dont see that the horse isnt competitive in *most* spots, and let Tagg find the best spot he can, or they just dont know what else to do with Funny Cide. So, they just run him.

I wish I knew, because personally, I think the horse gave alot to the game and even more to his connections, and it's time to thank the horse for that and just turn him out on retirement for good.

[geeker2]

didn't one of the owners just die?

[sumitas]

the gentleman on the left, i believe.
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...hp5-23-03b.jpg

[letswastemoney]

It's no different than Evening Attire running at 9. FC and EA finished right next to each other in the Wagon Limit.

I think he'd be bored in retirement.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

It's no different than Evening Attire running at 9. FC and EA finished right next to each other in the Wagon Limit.

I think he'd be bored in retirement.

Why?

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?

Just don't agree. This is no more offensive than a human sports star doing an American Express comercial in the waning years of his career.

The horse apparently isn't what he once was. The goal of his connections is to find a venue in which he can still win. What's the horse supposed to do? Act all dignified and sit on his laurels? Plus, people still love Funny Cide. Hell, I still love Funny Cide. If he came to Delaware or Philly, I'd probably go just to see him.