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Old 07-02-2007, 12:02 AM
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As long as he wins, it won't be sad
I don't care if he wins by 30, the fact that he had to ship to FINGER LAKES to get a win is pitiful.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:01 AM
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I don't know that he "had to ship to Finger Lakes to get a win". I honestly believe that Belmont would write a race for him to be competitive.

Maybe it is a idealitic view, but perhaps this is truely a way to give back to the racing world, letting the fans of Finger Lakes, who rarely get to see an Ohio Derby-caliber horse much less a Kentucky Derby winner. I wish that there were more geldings winning huge races and then get to see them race deep into their careers at smaller tracks like FLakes.

It will definately be a circus scene up there on Wed, but these are the things that the sport needs...
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:38 AM
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I don't know that he "had to ship to Finger Lakes to get a win". I honestly believe that Belmont would write a race for him to be competitive.

Maybe it is a idealitic view, but perhaps this is truely a way to give back to the racing world, letting the fans of Finger Lakes, who rarely get to see an Ohio Derby-caliber horse much less a Kentucky Derby winner. I wish that there were more geldings winning huge races and then get to see them race deep into their careers at smaller tracks like FLakes.

It will definately be a circus scene up there on Wed, but these are the things that the sport needs...
I think it's a desperate stable's search for a win disguised as a charitable donation to the more humble sector of the racing world.

What race could Belmont write for him that would guarantee a win? The Funny Cide Stakes, restricted to only horses named Funny Cide? He's out of allowance conditions, he's been beaten up by NY-breds over and over again and he obviously can't hack it in graded stakes company. What other choices does he have?
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:19 AM
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I think it's a desperate stable's search for a win disguised as a charitable donation to the more humble sector of the racing world.

What race could Belmont write for him that would guarantee a win? The Funny Cide Stakes, restricted to only horses named Funny Cide? He's out of allowance conditions, he's been beaten up by NY-breds over and over again and he obviously can't hack it in graded stakes company. What other choices does he have?
Optional claimers at 100K, which he already won one.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:16 PM
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Optional claimers at 100K, which he already won one.
He won one how long ago? He ran in an opt. claimer at Keeneland this spring and got crushed.

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Why?, he ran in 100k optional claimers. FL will get a 6,000 plus attendance to see a Derby and Preakness winner.
$100,000 optional claimer > $100,000 stake at Finger Lakes.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:19 PM
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He won one how long ago? He ran in an opt. claimer at Keeneland this spring and got crushed.



$100,000 optional claimer > $100,000 stake at Finger Lakes.
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I don't care if he wins by 30, the fact that he had to ship to FINGER LAKES to get a win is pitiful.
and of course the possibility exists that he might not win, even if he's supposed to...
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:59 AM
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:41 AM
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I don't care if he wins by 30, the fact that he had to ship to FINGER LAKES to get a win is pitiful.
100K is not pitiful. The horse wants to run, just like Evening Attire. What do you do with a horse that wants to run, let it sit in the stall, and cry
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:59 AM
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100K is not pitiful. The horse wants to run, just like Evening Attire. What do you do with a horse that wants to run, let it sit in the stall, and cry
Yeah, they're just doing this because "the horse wants to run." Easy to say when he's a gelding.

I don't care what the purse is, when a former Kentucky Derby winner can't win anywhere better than Finger Lakes, it's pitiful.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:16 AM
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Yeah, they're just doing this because "the horse wants to run." Easy to say when he's a gelding.

I don't care what the purse is, when a former Kentucky Derby winner can't win anywhere better than Finger Lakes, it's pitiful.
Why?, he ran in 100k optional claimers. FL will get a 6,000 plus attendance to see a Derby and Preakness winner. People still want to see the horse run. If he does well, they will write a race for him at the Spa too. Will that be sad also??
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What is so sad about FC running in a $100k stakes @ FL ? I don't get it.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:11 PM
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What is so sad about FC running in a $100k stakes @ FL ? I don't get it.
It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?
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It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?
Where do you draw the line? Would the Mass Cap at Suffolk in the fall be beneath a Derby winner?
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It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?
Just don't agree. This is no more offensive than a human sports star doing an American Express comercial in the waning years of his career.

The horse apparently isn't what he once was. The goal of his connections is to find a venue in which he can still win. What's the horse supposed to do? Act all dignified and sit on his laurels? Plus, people still love Funny Cide. Hell, I still love Funny Cide. If he came to Delaware or Philly, I'd probably go just to see him.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:37 PM
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It's ****ing FINGER LAKES! Look at the horses he's facing! How difficult is it to understand why that's gross for a Kentucky Derby winner?
Exactly, it is like Wiggins running at Fairmount.

Well, not really, but I understand your point
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I don't care if he wins by 30, the fact that he had to ship to FINGER LAKES to get a win is pitiful.

Things could be much worse - he could end up like Ferdinand and be sent to slaughter for fine dining in some foreign country. Let the horse run, let the people get a chance to see a Kentucky Derby winner, albeit a mere shadow of himself. and hope the owners make appropriate decisions with the horse so he can live a happy and productive life in whatever capacity chosen.
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