Larry Hughes sucks

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah you're right. No coaches ever call plays. It's basically a free for all out there.

What "play" would you call? Just give me an idea what you think they should have done? Cant you see that they have no one that can create thier own shot except Lebron? He passed off to a wide open guy in the corner the other day who missed. Did you like that one better? When you only have one real option what else could they do? They should have gotten a foul call and even without that they had a second, wide open look from 7 feet that they missed.

Cleveland has no point guard.
Lebron is dead meat just like Kobe without a point guard to spread the floor and control the flow of the game. Get them the ball where they like it.

Look at the 3 of the 4 teams.

Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams (who I think will be the best PG of these 3)
Tony Parker



Larry Hughes? No way, he is a two.
And the kid from Texas (Gibson) is in over his head offensively.
Crazy hair, I like him as a role player, I would take him. Big white Eastern European, I can use him. He can score but his defense is terrible. Definitely need some help.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Cleveland has no point guard.
Lebron is dead meat just like Kobe without a point guard to spread the floor and control the flow of the game. Get them the ball where they like it.

Look at the 3 of the 4 teams.

Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams (who I think will be the best PG of these 3)
Tony Parker



Larry Hughes? No way, he is a two.
And the kid from Texas (Gibson) is in over his head offensively.
Crazy hair, I like him as a role player, I would take him. Big white Eastern European, I can use him. He can score but his defense is terrible. Definitely need some help.

Despite the pleas from Mr. Cleveland Sports, Mortavich, it is amazing that a team with that little offense is in the conference finals regardless of the overall weakness of the East.
They have a weak point guard, below average 2 guard, average post offense and nice touch from the Russian, Gooden is a garbage man, Varejo is an energy guy but has no real offensive game, Marshall is strictly a spot up 3 point shooter, Gibson may yet be ok but he lacks experience. Thats it.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Despite the pleas from Mr. Cleveland Sports, Mortavich, it is amazing that a team with that little offense is in the conference finals regardless of the overall weakness of the East.
They have a weak point guard, below average 2 guard, average post offense and nice touch from the Russian, Gooden is a garbage man, Varejo is an energy guy but has no real offensive game, Marshall is strictly a spot up 3 point shooter, Gibson may yet be ok but he lacks experience. Thats it.

YOu make good points...the only thing I disagree with is that they are actually a pretty good rebounding team overall. LeBron is trapped pretty much...they have no shooters. Even their supposed good shooters aren't good (Pavlovic, Marshall, Jones, Gibson). They are a poor shooting team from the field and the foul line. I think Brown has done a wonderful coaching job with them, strengthening their defense considerably, which when you have a team that can't shoot is a wise thing to do in my opinion. I do think they have the athletes to run a bit more (James, Pavlovic, Hughes) but again, you can't have everything. People act like it's easy to do things against Detroit on this forum and it really isn't. They have had two legit shots to win games in Detroit which is pretty good. (for game winning or potential game winning shots the shots from Marshall in game 1 and Hughes in game 2 are about as good a shots as you are going to get against Detroit). Detroit is actually a better road team than home team, so it isn't going to get any easier for Cleveland. This series could be 4 games or 7 games. Tough to say.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Look, I agree they have very little talent surrounding LeBron. But, I did like that play better the other night, although LeBron should have taken that ball to the hole.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I would call, I'm not a NBA coach. I guess a pick and roll or setting LeBron or someone else with a jumpshot off a screen. Who knows? They did get a good second shot and missed. It happens.

It was the same play but this time Lebron took it to the hole instead of passing. You cant call a pick and roll in that situation because #1, You are handing Detroit an easy double on Lebron; #2 Who are you going to run the play for? If Rasheed was a Cav, then it is a possibility. But the Cavs dont have a single frontline player that you want to see with the ball in that situation. Lebron strength is moving with the ball toward the hoop, using his strength and size to overpower defenders. He is not that strong coming off of picks. Plus Detroit would almost certainly switch on the pick and try to deny the ball to Lebron. Which would leave the ball in the very shaky hands of Hughes, Snow, or Pavolich. Which would have been a poor decision by Brown.
Hamilton actually played great d on the play, being physical enough to disrupt the flow without drawing the foul.

There was no excuse for Hughes missing the follow up.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was the same play but this time Lebron took it to the hole instead of passing. You cant call a pick and roll in that situation because #1, You are handing Detroit an easy double on Lebron; #2 Who are you going to run the play for? If Rasheed was a Cav, then it is a possibility. But the Cavs dont have a single frontline player that you want to see with the ball in that situation. Lebron strength is moving with the ball toward the hoop, using his strength and size to overpower defenders. He is not that strong coming off of picks. Plus Detroit would almost certainly switch on the pick and try to deny the ball to Lebron. Which would leave the ball in the very shaky hands of Hughes, Snow, or Pavolich. Which would have been a poor decision by Brown.
Hamilton actually played great d on the play, being physical enough to disrupt the flow without drawing the foul.

There was no excuse for Hughes missing the follow up.

I think Ilgauskas is a guy you could do that stuff with...but he was on the bench becuase Verajao got minutes with his play.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think Ilgauskas is a guy you could do that stuff with...but he was on the bench becuase Verajao got minutes with his play.

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.

I was talking pick and roll...spotting up for a 15-20 footer.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I was talking pick and roll...spotting up for a 15-20 footer.

You want a 20 footer from Ilgaugukas as your final play?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You want a 20 footer from Ilgaugukas as your final play?

no (would prefer 15 footer!)...just an option for a play when the double or triple to LeBron comes...I would want a 20 footer from him over Hughes, Gooden, Marshall, Pavlovic etc.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Look, I agree they have very little talent surrounding LeBron. But, I did like that play better the other night, although LeBron should have taken that ball to the hole.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I would call, I'm not a NBA coach. I guess a pick and roll or setting LeBron or someone else with a jumpshot off a screen. Who knows? They did get a good second shot and missed. It happens.

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Oh never mind.

Go ahead and argue Hossy...Im afraid you're as lost as he is in this mess.












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Honest a God.

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