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Old 05-15-2007, 04:45 PM
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Bailey's pomposity drips from every word he writes or utters on this, and most other, topics.. His failure to acknowledge the realities of Steve Wynn's intent in this endeavor is the critical mass in the depth of his eagnerness to shill for them..
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:53 PM
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the ad hock ...wow thats a victory...i see a 10k stake named that in togas future..........
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:44 PM
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Bailey's pomposity drips from every word he writes or utters on this, and most other, topics.. His failure to acknowledge the realities of Steve Wynn's intent in this endeavor is the critical mass in the depth of his eagnerness to shill for them..
I am not sure Jerry wrote that by himself. I am sure their Washington based PR firm had a lot to do with the writing. Did you notice that they never mentioned Richard Fields the driving force behind this group? I find that act of omission to be very interesting.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:25 PM
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I am not sure Jerry wrote that by himself. I am sure their Washington based PR firm had a lot to do with the writing. Did you notice that they never mentioned Richard Fields the driving force behind this group? I find that act of omission to be very interesting.

Pretty good points all around. In fact.....better than " pretty good. "
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:00 AM
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Bailey's pomposity drips from every word he writes or utters on this, and most other, topics.. His failure to acknowledge the realities of Steve Wynn's intent in this endeavor is the critical mass in the depth of his eagnerness to shill for them..
Ya'll yankees have to stop with the fancy words; "pomposity". Everytime Byk decides to post, I have to reach for the dictionary.
"utters" now that is word a Tenn. boy knows about. LOL...
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:39 AM
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What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:22 AM
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What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.
I believe different people have very different standards and definitions of success. Personally, the size of one's estate or the digits to the left of the decimal point on one's balance sheet, to me, is a small slice in the pie of measuring success. On the other hand, who should be sitting in judgement of success anyway? And, on that note, what does successs have to do with this? In my mind, very little.

Sure, a no asset, no name, unsuccessful company could not come in and be awarded the franchise. That is not really the issue.

People may or may not like Jerry Bailey as a person, spokesman, business, or otherwise. He may or may not be qualified for said positions and roles. However, what is indisputable is that Jerry Bailey will go down as one of the greatest jockeys this sport has ever seen. However, that too has nothing to do with this issue.

Personally, I don't see why being a great jockey equates to knowing the business side of the racing and racetrack industry, nor do I see how it equates to knowing what the backside issues and needs are. I don't think Bailey's experience as a jockey -- and being a great jockey -- connects with him being a great businessman. Obviously many people here feel the same way.

BTW, just as an FYI, Jerry Bailey is one of the few big name, successful jockeys I do not personally know, he is not a friend or client, or anything of the like. I've never been a fan of his, and that doesn't mean I have any dislike for him. However, strictly as a jockey, I don't think anything really needs to be said.

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Old 05-16-2007, 11:42 AM
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You got to the heart of it....Bailey was absolutely one of the greatest riders of all time. He was honestly a pleasure to watch ride. He was confident, he was prepared, and he was almost always in the right place. However, while he has every right to attempt to cash in on his name, that does not preclude the rest of us from seeing through his remarks. From what I have seen in this thread he doesn't seem to be fooling anybody.

I guess the biggest thing that bothers me is how in one minute he could say that it was going to be great to have the NY Yankees running racing and then when they dropped out he didn't skip a beat in endorsing a carpetbagging Casino mogul. At that point it is nearly impossible to defend that he believes in anything more than the allmighty dollar......and that is just the point about this entire bidding process that should scare everybody. Who are the bidders that really care about racing and who is merely being lured by slot dollars. Since none of them, save NYRA, had any interest whatsoever in 1997 when the franchise was up for renewal, or in any prior years, why should we suddenly believe they care about racing now?
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:36 PM
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Who are the bidders that really care about racing and who is merely being lured by slot dollars. Since none of them, save NYRA, had any interest whatsoever in 1997 when the franchise was up for renewal, or in any prior years, why should we suddenly believe they care about racing now?
Thanks, that is the question that should be asked of all of these groups. Where were they before slots came into the equation?? Oh, I know they were home thinking up ways to save racing.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:52 PM
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You got to the heart of it....Bailey was absolutely one of the greatest riders of all time. He was honestly a pleasure to watch ride. He was confident, he was prepared, and he was almost always in the right place. However, while he has every right to attempt to cash in on his name, that does not preclude the rest of us from seeing through his remarks. From what I have seen in this thread he doesn't seem to be fooling anybody.

I guess the biggest thing that bothers me is how in one minute he could say that it was going to be great to have the NY Yankees running racing and then when they dropped out he didn't skip a beat in endorsing a carpetbagging Casino mogul. At that point it is nearly impossible to defend that he believes in anything more than the allmighty dollar......and that is just the point about this entire bidding process that should scare everybody. Who are the bidders that really care about racing and who is merely being lured by slot dollars. Since none of them, save NYRA, had any interest whatsoever in 1997 when the franchise was up for renewal, or in any prior years, why should we suddenly believe they care about racing now?
the $64,000 question right there...give or take a few million.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:41 AM
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What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.
He sure does. When you are as cheap as he supposedly is, the money adds up fast. As a guy who hustled tips for over 31 yrs I cant stand cheapskates.Ive been stiffed by alot of famous people over the years. A pox on all of them.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:47 AM
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He sure does. When you are as cheap as he supposedly is, the money adds up fast. As a guy who hustled tips for over 31 yrs I cant stand cheapskates.Ive been stiffed by alot of famous people over the years. A pox on all of them.

Maybe he is just thrifty

I hear ya, my wife tossed dishes for several years, the stories she tells are something. She refers to them as still having their first communion money.
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