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Old 04-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Is the problem legislating morality in general or legislating sexual morality only? If the former, your party has just as many problems. If the later, you still need to demonstrate why legislating morality in one realm is ok but not in another. And "Because people do it anyway," is not a good reason...as we can use that reason to knock down just about every criminal law and a plethora of other things.

And, FWIW, the Repubs are not my party, thank you very much. As far as I am concerned, the Repubs get all the "bad press" they deserve.
In my opinion, some morality needs to be legislated, like the fancy notion that killing other people is wrong. However, I believe what GR is saying (or at least what I glean, and what I think) is that those people legislating that are not running around killing people and then turning around and telling you not to.

This whole crusade to legislate "sexual morality" is folly to begin with because all it does is lead to under-education which is dangerous for kids. My parents taught me about sex and condoms by the time I was twelve because they thought that educated people make smarter, safer decisions. Instead of pretending that by giving real, potentially life-saving education to kids we will encourage a bunch of promiscuous eighth graders, maybe we should be looking at the fact that education saves lives and abstinence-only education doesn't work at all.

So when these very same very married people who want to make it mandatory that the only sex education we provide for kids is "don't do it" and the only advice we have for them regarding sex is "don't do it," but are then cavorting around getting "massages" from "Central Americans," (translation: non-commital way of saying you cheated on your wife by ****ing another woman, a non-American one at that!) we have a little bit of a problem. Immoral people who spend their whole lives telling others how to live "morally" don't deserve to be part of the decision-making process for anything that involves morality, aka, lay off the icky-sex-is-bad-and-I-would-know-because-I-am-the-world's-fourth-most-moral-person-according-to-the-latest-polls stuff and then nobody's feathers get ruffled when you get caught paying for blowjobs from hookers.
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:18 PM
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Question: On the "morality meter", which is worse...telling a LIE that causes others to be murdered or committing ADULTARY that leaves the participants smiling?

Follow up question: Anyone know when the "war crimes" trials will begin?
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:10 PM
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Question: On the "morality meter", which is worse...telling a LIE that causes others to be murdered or committing ADULTARY that leaves the participants smiling?

Follow up question: Anyone know when the "war crimes" trials will begin?
OK...got my answer. Canada will lead the way.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/article/208200
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:00 PM
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In my opinion, some morality needs to be legislated, like the fancy notion that killing other people is wrong. However, I believe what GR is saying (or at least what I glean, and what I think) is that those people legislating that are not running around killing people and then turning around and telling you not to.

This whole crusade to legislate "sexual morality" is folly to begin with because all it does is lead to under-education which is dangerous for kids. My parents taught me about sex and condoms by the time I was twelve because they thought that educated people make smarter, safer decisions. Instead of pretending that by giving real, potentially life-saving education to kids we will encourage a bunch of promiscuous eighth graders, maybe we should be looking at the fact that education saves lives and abstinence-only education doesn't work at all.

So when these very same very married people who want to make it mandatory that the only sex education we provide for kids is "don't do it" and the only advice we have for them regarding sex is "don't do it," but are then cavorting around getting "massages" from "Central Americans," (translation: non-commital way of saying you cheated on your wife by ****ing another woman, a non-American one at that!) we have a little bit of a problem. Immoral people who spend their whole lives telling others how to live "morally" don't deserve to be part of the decision-making process for anything that involves morality, aka, lay off the icky-sex-is-bad-and-I-would-know-because-I-am-the-world's-fourth-most-moral-person-according-to-the-latest-polls stuff and then nobody's feathers get ruffled when you get caught paying for blowjobs from hookers.

i'm all with laws regarding felonious crimes like murder and such--but when the courts are tied up with discussing whether sex toys should be legal--well, call me crazy, but i think that's just ridiculous. what two consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their home should be their own business.
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